Gavin Posted March 28, 2002 Share Posted March 28, 2002 Now I have just realised something that effects most RPG's in the RPG sections. The Genki Dama or Spirit bomb can only be preformed f the user has a clear heart aka Goku but what made me think was that when Goku fights enemies in SSJ formhe never uses that Kaio-Ken it must be because you have to have a clear heart to use that Kaio-Ken also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merchant Posted March 28, 2002 Share Posted March 28, 2002 I think that he doesnt do the Kaio ken in ssj form becouse that would do very damage to his body. He does one kaio ken in ssj form , when he figthed pikohan(or something), but he was death so he could take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibo Posted March 28, 2002 Share Posted March 28, 2002 Don't see why Kaio Ken would hurt his body when he is in SSJ form. But he does use it in the otherworld tournament against Pikkeon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Goten~SSJ3 Posted March 28, 2002 Share Posted March 28, 2002 Lets just say if a fighter has too much power in them then in theory they would die since ssj in it self is so powerful the power doubles and also that much power even if he could handel it might just corupt him. Look at brolly and how his power corrupted him. As for the spirit bomb since you have to have a clean spirit it is not possible in ssj since you No longer have a clean spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCBaggee Posted March 28, 2002 Share Posted March 28, 2002 [color=red][size=3]Didn't you see the episode [i]Goku vs. Pikon[/i]?! He used the Super Kaio Ken. He probably didn't use it any other time just 'cuz he didn't need to. Super Saiyan is like a really strong, really long lasting Kaio Ken.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Altron Gundam Posted March 28, 2002 Share Posted March 28, 2002 grr...saiyajin....not saiyan.. But overall the Kaio-ken does not require a clear heart to use because all it is is an adrenaline rush x1000... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCBaggee Posted March 29, 2002 Share Posted March 29, 2002 [color=red][size=3]Sorry...I'm used to writing it as "Saiyan" for my website, since it's aimed at American audiences...[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSJ Pud Posted March 29, 2002 Share Posted March 29, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Goten~SSJ3 [/i] [B]Lets just say if a fighter has too much power in them then in theory they would die since ssj in it self is so powerful the power doubles and also that much power even if he could handel it might just corupt him. Look at brolly and how his power corrupted him. As for the spirit bomb since you have to have a clean spirit it is not possible in ssj since you No longer have a clean spirit. [/B][/QUOTE] umm why would going ssj have ne effect of the purity of ur spirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merchant Posted March 29, 2002 Share Posted March 29, 2002 Anger my friend, when you become ssj you can´t have a clean spirit becouse youre more sayajin than in normal person thus you are more violent and violence is not part of a clean spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Altron Gundam Posted March 29, 2002 Share Posted March 29, 2002 Actually the SSJ power just absorbs the Genki Dama energy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixflames Posted March 29, 2002 Share Posted March 29, 2002 I couldn't have said it better myself Altron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakkarot ssj4 Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Altron Gundam [/i] [B]Actually the SSJ power just absorbs the Genki Dama energy... [/B][/QUOTE]' true true... saiyajins rely on anger to go to ssj...and u put in anger into a pure heart u dont have a pure heart anymore..got it??... im talking bout a pure good heart..not bad..just to make it clear.. i believe in ur theory altron..but alaborate on how it absorbs it???i get it but then i dont..wierd:confused: :therock: :whoops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shift Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 [SIZE=1][COLOR=crimson]If you can't use the Genki-dama when in SSj form then how in the hell does Goku defeat Buu? I mean after all he uses a Super Genki Dama doesn't he? [/COLOR] [/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSJ Pud Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 actually i beleive he uses a Kamehamaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merchant Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 [SIZE=3][COLOR=orangered]spoilers[/COLOR][/SIZE] He uses a genki dama to defeat buu, but he gather it in normal form becouse he was tired and loosed the ssj transformation. When the genki dama is complete he trows it and buu tryes to stop it, then the final wish is made to the dragon balls so that goku is healed and then he turns into ssj and beats buu in pushing the genki dama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakkarot ssj4 Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Merchant [/i] [B]He uses a genki dama to defeat buu, but he gather it in normal form becouse he was tired and loosed the ssj transformation. When the genki dama is complete he trows it and buu tryes to stop it, then the final wish is made to the dragon balls so that goku is healed and then he turns into ssj and beats buu in pushing the genki dama. [/B][/QUOTE] man u really make me want to see the rest of the mb saga..:mad: :mrt: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted March 31, 2002 Author Share Posted March 31, 2002 [color=teal]I also agree with Altron I hate the way people say Saiyan instead of saiya-jin it sounds so stupid ssj stands for super saiya-jin not super saiyan. Also I didn't know that Goku uses a kaio-ken against Pikkon because i haven't seen or read up about that saga yet........but i hope to[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trunks02 Posted April 1, 2002 Share Posted April 1, 2002 Kaio ken can't be used in SSJ form because it would put waaaay to much strain on the body for someone to take. I suppose Goku was able to take it being that he was dead. And everyone who said the SSJ anger stuff was right. Remeber what Master Roshi said when Goku wen't SSJ agaisnt Furiza? He said Goku was trying to hold onto who he really was. So SSJ does alter the way a person acts, making them more angry, and violent. Look at Vegeta, he had a son, and a wife? That he truely cared about. And then when he turned SSJ he turned back into a badass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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