hemmorhoid Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 i thought it was so cool how gohan was the strongest and beat the **** out of cell but i hate the big skip in time where all gohan does is go to school and rescue humans and after all that study time he has become weaker then he was 7 years ago as a kid i really think that sux, i mean hes goku son he should atleast be stronger than vegeta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyono Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 yeah, it does suck, but did you notice that during the tournament that Shin (the supreme kai, excuse my crappy spelling) made the comment that Gohan was "still the strongest fighter in this tournament". Then again, Shin underestimated alot of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Altron Gundam Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 At least just for Buu Saga he does become stronger than Vegi... Mystic Gohan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiffRaff Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Gohan does become weaker.but when the Rou-Dai Kaioshin trains him, he has the exact power of SSJ2 without transforming. he is weak until the mid-range of the Majin Buu saga. then he is equally as strong as Goku and Vejita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by RiffRaff [/i] [B]Gohan does become weaker.but when the Rou-Dai Kaioshin trains him, he has the exact power of SSJ2 without transforming. he is weak until the mid-range of the Majin Buu saga. then he is equally as strong as Goku and Vejita [/B][/QUOTE] Acutally, I don't mean to nitpick, lol, but his power in mystic form is closer to SSJ3. Which, essentially, makes him a head over Vegita in terms of strength. But, if you think he's weak here, wait until you see him in DBGT. He's not much of a major player overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlow Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 You are all right Gohan was so much better when he was younger and now he seems to be very weak and look how he was training with Goten and Goten was giving him a challenge and also Vegeta made a comment that Gohan was weaker than him because had went to school and quit training. Whats that tell ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by jlow [/i] [B]You are all right Gohan was so much better when he was younger and now he seems to be very weak and look how he was training with Goten and Goten was giving him a challenge and also Vegeta made a comment that Gohan was weaker than him because had went to school and quit training. Whats that tell ya? [/B][/QUOTE] Well, it's not like he was trying his hardest in sparring with Goten. He was definitely going easy on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemmorhoid Posted April 11, 2002 Author Share Posted April 11, 2002 still i think its a shame especially after he beat cell he should deserve more credit it would b fair if he atleast became 2nd strongest after goku once again beating vegeta in strength well thats the way it went so we have to accept it atleast goku remains the strongest all the way through DBZ and DBGT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSJ Pud Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 Technicly he is not weaker than when he was a kid. It jus seems the way cause everyone else is stronger. ;) Also i think the only reason Vegeta was stronger in Buu was that he was Majin and equal with Goku. If he was normal Vegeta and Gohan would probably be the same. On the same topic it is a shame in the end of DBZ and throughout DBGT he kinda fades into the backround. So much potential wasted. He could have been SSJ3 and 4 right up there with his dad and Vegeta. Ah well, such is life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike speigel Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 Actually, Gohan is the strongest character in dbz. After he tries to become mystic ssj gohan, he becomes as strong as 6 ssj gokus put together in normal state. the only reason he is weak in dbgt is because akira toryama didn't make the series the guy who did changed it. :flaming: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinetic Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by spike speigel [/i] [B]Actually, Gohan is the strongest character in dbz. After he tries to become mystic ssj gohan, he becomes as strong as 6 ssj gokus put together in normal state. the only reason he is weak in dbgt is because akira toryama didn't make the series the guy who did changed it. :flaming: [/B][/QUOTE] Exactly, I want to get my hands on the guy who made DBGT. He changed everything, I mean, even Vegeta's hair!! Gohan would be above and beyond. Plus, everyone knows Akira Toriyama, but the guy who made DBGT is always "whoever made DBGT" I bet no one knows! j/k, cuz you are all DBZ masters and probably know it :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikey Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 I'm gonna straighten this out for you all. Gohan does become a little weaker. But remeber he oes turn S.S.J 2 remeber. When they are releasing Fat Buu from his ball, Gohan gets completly mad. He almost goes as strong as he did when he fought Cell. Actually Gohan does lose a little of his powers. He gets stronker when he fights Vegi. Gohan does get a little weaker. -Spikey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gogeta-sama Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 when he defeated cell his power is a step below SSJ3 but way above 2. SSJ3 your hair grows extremely long and you lose your eye brows for some reason and that never happens to Gohan ever. He never exceeds level 2. there isnt any appearence difference from Lv 1 and Lv 2 just a power boost. a little ways after where cartoon network is, goku fights buu but to entertain him he goes through every stage of a SSJ and its very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Learchey Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Yeah i think that it does sux that Gohan becomes weaker but when he does mystic Gohan he becomes stronger than Gotenks level 3. But i do think that he should become stronger and become a ssj3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 but also u gotta remember that gohan dosen't exactly like to fight he does it because he respects his dad and when his dad dies his mom totally takes over and dosen't let him train as hard as his dad would have let him done so in all of course gohan was going to get weaker most of us knew it a soon as goku died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSJ Pud Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Learchey [/i] [B]Yeah i think that it does sux that Gohan becomes weaker but when he does mystic Gohan he becomes stronger than Gotenks level 3. But i do think that he should become stronger and become a ssj3. [/B][/QUOTE] I dunno bout that. Where in the show does it prove he is Stronger then Gotenks Lvl 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleFluteSan Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Most of Gohan's power comes from his battle rages. In the english version, they don't dwell on it too much, but I know Vegeta mentions it during the fight with Freeza, briefly. And when they're in the spaceship, right before stage one Vegeta says something like "Gohan has been to busy going on dates to do any real training." In the original Japanese, Vegeta says something like "Me and Kakarrot are the higher powers now, but then again, all Gohan has to do is go into a rage and he's right there with us." And that's how it's been all throughout DBZ... Goku and Vegeta are always stronger, but when Gohan get's pissed, he surpasses everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemmorhoid Posted April 15, 2002 Author Share Posted April 15, 2002 but then potentially son gohan could still become the strongest ever i mean he was the strongest in the universe at the age of 10 or so and at that age son goku was probably one thousandth as strong so in that respect if gohan really started to train he could easily have become the strongest because theres no doubt he is the most talented although maybe son goten is more talented Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaioshin Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by hemmorhoid [/i] [B]i mean hes goku son he should atleast be stronger than vegeta [/B][/QUOTE] Technically he shouldn't be stronger than Vegeta just cos he's Goku's son, Vegeta should be stronger than Gohan as he is pure blooded Saiyan. In fact Vegeta should be stronger than Goku, as he has royal saiyan blood and was declared a saiyan elite when he was born, while goku was merely a 3rd class saiyan. But goku has the power of good on his side. And he can kick a** P.S Goten, Trunks and Gohan can never be the strongest ever for the same reason, they're not pure blooded SJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlow Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 In Dead Zone it shows that Gohan has the ability to surpass Goku because Goku and Piccolo were fighting Garlic Jr and losing when Gohan woke up went into a rage and knocked Garlic Jr into his own Dead Zone!:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geist Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 I also think it really stinks when he get's weaker, he was so cool in the Cell saga! I hate it when Gohan's fighting Dabura, and Goku says, (on the dub,) "Well at least he gets straight A's." And Gohan is pretty much just as strong as he was when he was fighting Cell, his technique just isn't as good as it used to be, like Vegeta said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goku213 Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Kouberei [/i] [B] Goku says, (on the dub,) "Well at least he gets straight A's." [/B][/QUOTE]Why, what does it say in the original version and this has probably been noted, but Trunks, the little one, has the potential, over time, of being the strongest fighter. Trunks and Goten both turned SSJ before Gohan did (in terms of age not in terms of time) and Trunks is slightly more powerful than Goten, so it would be Trunks who potentially could be the strongest, but like i said, that would only be over time as he's so young saw him rescue Vegeta today Vs Buu, i thought he was going to go SSJ2 cuz of how mad he was, lol. I'm disappointed with that now, LoL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geist Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Goku213 [/i] [B]Why, what does it say in the original version?[/B][/QUOTE] [COLOR=blue]I don't know, I was just pointing it out so people would know what version it was from. Also, I heard that Trunks and Goten [B]can't[/B] go above the first SSJ stage, is that true?[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibo Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 It's true. Alone they don't go above the first SSJ stage. But together as Gotenks, they go to SSJ3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike speigel Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 Gohan would be the strongest if Akira Toriama kept the show to its original plan. after goku died in the cell saga, akira was going to keep him dead abd have gohan be the star, but the fans in japan didn't like it so he dhanged it. I think Gohan would be a lot better as the main character then goku. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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