Goku213 Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 2 questions..... 1) do Big Trunks (the Trunks who comes to deliver the news about Androids cming) and Little Trunks (the one who fought Goten in the tourny) ever meet each other? 2) Gohan and everyone knew that he was having more trouble than he should against Daburah (sp?) so why didn't he go SSJ2? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinetic Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 No. I am sure that they don't in DBZ, and I'm pretty sure about DBGT, but I don't know about there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 Yes, Mirai no Trunks met himself when he traveled back in time. If you remember back to the Cell saga, he saved Bulma and baby Trunks, from their plane when Dr. Gero took it down. Also, I remember baby Trunks tugging on Mirai no Trunks's hair. As for Gohan, well, he was really rusty. Even transforming to SSJ2, his power wasn't a significant increase. Now, this is just my take on it, but I don't think power really mattered a lot in that fight. Overall, it's because Gohan was rough around the edges, like I said earlier, and he doesn't really like hurting other beings. I remember in the Japanese version, Vegeta scolded him and gave him a lecture on being weak. He said that Piccolo and Krillin were weak, and they paid for it. Gohan basically acknowledges that he didn't try his hardest, as he thinks to himself that Vegeta is correct, and if he had fought harder, his friends would have been turned back to normal. So, there you have it, Gohan just wasn't angry enough to fight Dabura with all he had. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinetic Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Crazy White Boy [/i] [B]Yes, Mirai no Trunks met himself when he traveled back in time. If you remember back to the Cell saga, he saved Bulma and baby Trunks, from their plane when Dr. Gero took it down. Also, I remember baby Trunks tugging on Mirai no Trunks's hair. As for Gohan, well, he was really rusty. Even transforming to SSJ2, his power wasn't a significant increase. Now, this is just my take on it, but I don't think power really mattered a lot in that fight. Overall, it's because Gohan was rough around the edges, like I said earlier, and he doesn't really like hurting other beings. I remember in the Japanese version, Vegeta scolded him and gave him a lecture on being weak. He said that Piccolo and Krillin were weak, and they paid for it. Gohan basically acknowledges that he didn't try his hardest, as he thinks to himself that Vegeta is correct, and if he had fought harder, his friends would have been turned back to normal. So, there you have it, Gohan just wasn't angry enough to fight Dabura with all he had. ;) [/B][/QUOTE] Ya, stupid me, I forgot that he met chibi-trunks when he was a baby. I thought he meant when chibi had grown up a little :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goku213 Posted April 17, 2002 Author Share Posted April 17, 2002 oh yea, they met in the cell saga. I forgot about that, but i was meaning when little trunks is older, y'know........when he actually understands things, not as a baby who would know nothing. It showed what happens in tomorrows show. Showed Vegeta having a fit. lol. But with the tourny over with, it's kind of pointless Vegeta and Goku fighting. And i have read on here that when Goku comes back, a lot of people were saying that the better fighters goes like..... Goku (can go SSJ3) Gohan (can go SSJ2) Vegeta (cant go SSJ2 until he's posessed) But in the ship, Vegeta constantly goes on about how he is the strongest. Well Goku is stronger than him, so he's wrong about that, but is he stronger than Gohan then? Even though Gohan can go SSJ2? I didnt think SSJ1 could be stronger than SSJ2, no matter how much training is done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiroMunkie Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 [quote][i]Originally posted by Goku213[/i] [b]And i have read on here that when Goku comes back, a lot of people were saying that the better fighters goes like..... Goku (can go SSJ3) Gohan (can go SSJ2) Vegeta (cant go SSJ2 until he's posessed) But in the ship, Vegeta constantly goes on about how he is the strongest. Well Goku is stronger than him, so he's wrong about that, but is he stronger than Gohan then? Even though Gohan can go SSJ2? I didnt think SSJ1 could be stronger than SSJ2, no matter how much training is done?[/b][/quote][color=firebrick][size=1]Gokou's always the strongest simply because he's the "hero". Vegeta is almost [i]always[/i] second strongest. The only time Gohan is ever stronger than Vegeta was in the Cell Games and when he becomes "Mystic Gohan". But even then, Vegeta put up a better fight against Buu than "Mystic" Gohan does.[/size][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinetic Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by PiroMunkie [/i] [B][color=firebrick][size=1]Gokou's always the strongest simply because he's the "hero". Vegeta is almost [i]always[/i] second strongest. The only time Gohan is ever stronger than Vegeta was in the Cell Games and when he becomes "Mystic Gohan". But even then, Vegeta put up a better fight against Buu than "Mystic" Gohan does.[/size][/color] [/B][/QUOTE] Exactly, Gohan is almost [i]always[/i] third in the race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gogeta-sama Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 now that vegeta can go SSJ4, gohan has no chance against him but even so, vegeta becomes the strongest at one point past goku but then goku suddenly gains a new ability and becomes stronger. then vegeta, then goku and so on and so forth but during the buu saga when they both fought, they were pretty evenly matched as SSJ2. at same levels they are evenly matched. back to the question about trunks. the only time they were even close to one another was when trunks was a baby and future trunks was around during the cell games. a lot of the movies has future trunks in them for no reason but during those times, the present trunks was still a baby. once the present trunks grew up to the age of 8, future trunks just stopped coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinetic Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Gogeta-sama [/i] [B]now that vegeta can go SSJ4, gohan has no chance against him but even so, vegeta becomes the strongest at one point past goku but then goku suddenly gains a new ability and becomes stronger. then vegeta, then goku and so on and so forth but during the buu saga when they both fought, they were pretty evenly matched as SSJ2. at same levels they are evenly matched. [/B][/QUOTE] Actually, Goku would have beaten him, at SSJ2 because unlike Vegeta, he trains to his max in each level, whereas Vegeta tries to gain new levels. When Goku fought Vegeta, he could have gone SSJ3 (because he had already gained the ability), but he wanted a fair fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goku213 Posted April 18, 2002 Author Share Posted April 18, 2002 oh, future Trunks was a good character anyway. I liked him when he first came to bring the news I've just seen it said in some post that Buu deals with the Grand Ki. Now i'm guessing that GK is very weak compared to the likes of Goku, Buu, Vegeta etc, so what happens when Buu deals with Ki? Does he die at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 son gohan would have lost to daboura simply because he got weaker over the years, his strength as an ssj2 would have decreased significantly, meaning his ssj2 strength might have even gone to the level of a high level super saiyajin, like vegita-sama for example, this is probably why vegita was so confident he was stronger.... towards the end of the series, son gohan becomes the second strongest, not vegita, son gohan's mystic ability is almost equal to that of the strength of an ssj3, like I said, almost, but not quite ssj3.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goku213 Posted April 18, 2002 Author Share Posted April 18, 2002 thanks for the info on mystic Gohan Sepiroth, i didn't know anything about that level. How does he manage to do that? And when does he change clothes to look like Goku?[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Goku213 [/i] [B] I've just seen it said in some post that Buu deals with the Grand Ki. Now i'm guessing that GK is very weak compared to the likes of Goku, Buu, Vegeta etc, so what happens when Buu deals with Ki? Does he die at all? [/B][/QUOTE]^^ ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Goku213 [/i] [B]thanks for the info on mystic Gohan Sepiroth, i didn't know anything about that level. How does he manage to do that? And when does he change clothes to look like Goku?^^ ?? [/B][/QUOTE] later on in the series is when he gets a change of clothes, he reaches that level later on too, from rou kaioshin I believe, and gets the zeta sword to fight with too.... with the mystic level, he becomes powerful without having to transform into a super saiyajin.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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