Guest Saiyangohan2002 Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 I have been watching the French presidential election with some curiosity. and about his guy called Le Pen. if the country REALLY hates him this much, the how come he's the runner-up to Chirac. He calls the holocaust a detail of history, If he's such a French advocate he would know than the Nazis tried to invade France(or they did) Im sure we have the next Hitler, or Taleban if hes voted in what do u think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Matt Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 [color=red][b]I don't like that guy. I was shocked when he refered to the Holocoust as a "detail of history". He doesn't like immagrants. he only wants french people in france. he is sounding like another hitler. there was a protest to day with his supporters. he worries me. we are so focused on the middle east, we could let him rise in power and not even notice. that is, if he gets elected.[/b][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 [color=royalblue]I don't think Le Penn will be elected to the Presidency, but there was one thing I really didn't like... All those people who protested/rioted in the streets upon hearing the result. If he'd put himself there, then that's terrible...but if people have [i]freely voted[/i] for him...well, that's no reason to riot. lol Sure, I don't think many people like this guy...and I don't think people voted for him because they love his policies. They voted because they wanted the current beaurocracy to wake up and realize that it's not in touch with voters.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zidargh Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 Oh god, I dont want anything to occur, rise to presidency? I really hope not. But we cannot let our guard down either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Fett Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 If he gets elected (which I am sure he wont!!) I will not be happy to say the least. He is anti semitic and not somebody who should run ANY country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 I haven't been paying attention to the News recently, but this guy DOES sounds pretty not-nice... But...it would take a lot to make "the next Hitler." I doubt he's THAT bad. -Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueGender Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 Maybe he does have the working of the next Hitler theirfore he will probabally be watched closely by the American and British Government and if he trys anything that even resembles what Hitler has done I am sure one of the two governments will be on him like white on rice. So I think that we shouldn't worry to much about the guy. Did he really say that thing about the holocost during the election...? If he did then he either has a bad nack at speech writing skills or he wants not to be elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char! Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 This Le Pen guy sounds nuts. Then again, Hitler, Napoleon, Mussolini (sp?!?!), they all sounded nuts before they made their impact. Nobody expects these things to happen. Then they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 The guys an idiot and he'll never win... and if he does... the French should all be slapped int he face... because they would ruin everything.... I would sure hope the French are smarter than that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fall Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Char-Char,Mander-Char! [/i] [B]This Le Pen guy sounds nuts. Then again, Hitler, Napoleon, Mussolini (sp?!?!), they all sounded nuts before they made their impact. [/B][/QUOTE] Now that was exactly what I was thinking. All these "enemies" or whatever they are have very wierd names, especially Mussolini (sp?).... Though to tell you another thing, I've never heard of this "Le Pen" guy.... is he like a guy that the whole of France hates? Because that what I'm thinking from reading this thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cloricus Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 you people must remember France only had a very small voter turn out for that 1st election thing how ever they do it, so more people will vote in the 2nd election thing and he "shouldn?t" be able to get in. and comparing him to the taliban is very unfair. you must remember that some countries expose their people to propaganda (eg America and others good and bad) so you can never really know what?s going on. but I don?t think he would be another Hitler, he doesn?t have the army and America and Briton and all the others don?t want ww3. you should be worrying about bush attacking Iraq because unlike the taliban they want be a push over! And I am in no way on the side of le pen. (in my opinion) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by cloricus [/i] [B]you people must remember France only had a very small voter turn out for that 1st election thing how ever they do it, so more people will vote in the 2nd election thing and he "shouldn?t" be able to get in. and comparing him to the taliban is very unfair. you must remember that some countries expose their people to propaganda (eg America and others good and bad) so you can never really know what?s going on. but I don?t think he would be another Hitler, he doesn?t have the army and America and Briton and all the others don?t want ww3. you should be worrying about bush attacking Iraq because unlike the taliban they want be a push over! And I am in no way on the side of le pen. (in my opinion) [/B][/QUOTE] [color=royalblue]Hm, I think that strays off-course somewhat. Of course Le Pen isn't [i]literally[/i] like Hitler (in terms of army/defence and whatnot). But his ideals are very similar. Being traditionally right-wing, he wishes to isolate France -- to withdraw it from the European Union and to revert back to the Franc, despite the introduction of the Euro. He also wants to put in place very strict new refugee laws and such, which would significantly prohibit access to France. So people are referring to his politics, moreso than his actual physical actions or whatever.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 He's a strong nationalist. But in the wrong ways. By doing what he wants to do, he'll ruin the economy of France, he'll have them hated even more than they are now, and he'll turn them back into the 18th century. If they actually vote this guy in, the French deserve all they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyGirl Posted May 3, 2002 Share Posted May 3, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Char-Char,Mander-Char! [/i] [B]This Le Pen guy sounds nuts. Then again, Hitler, Napoleon, Mussolini (sp?!?!), they all sounded nuts before they made their impact. [/B][/QUOTE] [color=deeppink]Hitler didn't sound nuts...people LIKED his ideas...that's why he rose to power. He started implimenting his ideas [i]after[/i] he became the head of Germany. [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted May 3, 2002 Share Posted May 3, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i] [B]He's a strong nationalist. But in the wrong ways. By doing what he wants to do, he'll ruin the economy of France, he'll have them hated even more than they are now, and he'll turn them back into the 18th century. If they actually vote this guy in, the French deserve all they get. [/B][/QUOTE] [color=royalblue]The French are hated? By whom? lol I don't think the guy will get voted in. It's just that he received a higher-than-normal vote in the first round of national voting.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted May 3, 2002 Share Posted May 3, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i] [B] [color=royalblue]The French are hated? By whom? lol I don't think the guy will get voted in. It's just that he received a higher-than-normal vote in the first round of national voting.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] The Italians for one... but it's not really hate... it's more a strong dislike of.... British aren't much fond of them either They had a uhh... riot protest thing today... 10,000 people came out to support Le Pen... about 1.7 million came out to be against Le Pen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Dark Posted May 3, 2002 Share Posted May 3, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i] [B] The Italians for one... but it's not really hate... it's more a strong dislike of.... British aren't much fond of them either They had a uhh... riot protest thing today... 10,000 people came out to support Le Pen... about 1.7 million came out to be against Le Pen.... [/B][/QUOTE] So basically, Le Pen's not gonna do it. It's shocking though that in this day and age, there are still people like him. You would have thought society learned from their mistakes. He also said that he will ship off all immagrants to Britain (He doesn't like Blair) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char! Posted May 3, 2002 Share Posted May 3, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i] [B][color=royalblue] But his ideals are very similar. Being traditionally right-wing, he wishes to isolate France -- to withdraw it from the European Union and to revert back to the Franc, despite the introduction of the Euro.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] What? The franc's gone?!?!? Then what the heck am I doin' learning how many francs are needed to buy a sandwich in French class?!?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted May 4, 2002 Share Posted May 4, 2002 The last thing this panic-stricken world needs is another communist in front of a large country. We already have to deal with the Taliban, and I have a feeling the Soviet Union will be showing up soon. I really know only what has been posted on this topic because I am a deprived cableT.V.-less adolecant but it all sounds like cr@p to me. If they hate him so much why even vote for him? Germany urged Hitler up because he knew how to prey on peoples fears. From what I have heard, France has no fears. Please correct me if I am mistaken. :demon: Knight Of The Dark Order :demon: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted May 4, 2002 Share Posted May 4, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DarkOrderKnight [/i] [B]The last thing this panic-stricken world needs is another communist in front of a large country. We already have to deal with the Taliban, and I have a feeling the Soviet Union will be showing up soon. I really know only what has been posted on this topic because I am a deprived cableT.V.-less adolecant but it all sounds like cr@p to me. If they hate him so much why even vote for him? Germany urged Hitler up because he knew how to prey on peoples fears. From what I have heard, France has no fears. Please correct me if I am mistaken. :demon: Knight Of The Dark Order :demon: [/B][/QUOTE] France has no defence... well they have some, but very little that can do anything. They simply aren't worth much but as a tourist location. I mean, they gave up in what... 6 days during WWII? They are weak when it comes to world power. Their majority of strength is in their allys, which if this idiot gets ellected, they probably won't have anymore. I certainly hope the french are smart enough not to put this guy in power, he will only ruin the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixflames Posted May 4, 2002 Share Posted May 4, 2002 I think that if everyone's favorite Bush gets wind of anyone trying to pull a Hitler on us, well, there won't be enough left of that guy to fit on a charm bracelet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotenksSSJ343 Posted May 4, 2002 Share Posted May 4, 2002 First of all the guy nuts crazy and an idoit and the french are smart i konw that even though their militia's weak dosen't mean they can out vote him and with the UN (United Nations) theres probably little chance of war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Dark Posted May 4, 2002 Share Posted May 4, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i] [B] France has no defence... well they have some, but very little that can do anything. They simply aren't worth much but as a tourist location. I mean, they gave up in what... 6 days during WWII? They are weak when it comes to world power. Their majority of strength is in their allys, which if this idiot gets ellected, they probably won't have anymore. I certainly hope the french are smart enough not to put this guy in power, he will only ruin the country. [/B][/QUOTE] Mmm, in the first AND second world wars they didn't really do much at all, except fight in trenches, and then be defeated in the second one. And the other wars...well, they didn't really take part... But they are worth MUCH more than a tourist location, TN. They have created some of the best minds around Henri Becquerel, and Pastor, and Eiffel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ff X_Tidus Posted May 4, 2002 Share Posted May 4, 2002 I dont like this guy at all, but for the likes of tony blairto tell the french not to vote for him means hes got more balls than brains, who is he to tell them that, its not our problem, or does he want to play hero like how he did with the situation in Afganistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Fett Posted May 4, 2002 Share Posted May 4, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ff X_Tidus [/i] [B]I dont like this guy at all, but for the likes of tony blairto tell the french not to vote for him means hes got more balls than brains, who is he to tell them that, its not our problem, or does he want to play hero like how he did with the situation in Afganistan. [/B][/QUOTE] More balls than brains? Blair wants to stop him from being elected,so he wont become a problem. Just because Blair is English, dosent mean that he dosent have common sense enough to see that Le Pen is not a good person to run France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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