Gaming Xbox price drop

[*-- RagnaroK--*]

within one month of its release date the price has already dropped a hundred, so its basically another version of the dreamcast (god bless its soul).
Im thinking of getting one though, only if shenmue stops on the dreamcast, but still post me or PM me if it is worth buying, thats if anyone here has an Xbox!!! :p

[DeathKnight]

[color=crimson]I think its worth it if the price has dropped. Heh. Since you have System Exclusive Games Like Halo... Which is one of the most popular games for the System out.

Also you get stuff like Dead or Alive 3, and Jet Set Radio Future, which are both awesome games. And since the price is more reasonable, I think that it would be a good thing to put on your 'To buy' list.[/color]

[Charles]

If you're a hardcore gamer, go out and get the Xbox. Although the system's future is a bit clouded, there are some real gems underneath the piles of crap out at the moment.

Any of the games that DeathKnight suggested will do you just fine. Check out [URL=http://otakuboards.com/showthread.php?threadid=10613]this thread[/URL] to see even more games that would make great additions to your library (while helping you avoid the previously mentioned garbage).

[Sephiroth]

you should definately invest in buying an xbox cuz, I tried to persuade your brother the other day, but he just wasen't listening, what a fool, could have been playing JSR future by now....

[iggy]

the lowered the price cause noone will buy it cause it sucks!!
and cause PS2 kills its soul

[Charles]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by iggy [/i]
[B]the lowered the price cause noone will buy it cause it sucks!!
and cause PS2 kills its soul [/B][/QUOTE]

lol, After reading your post about Final Fantasy in the Nintendo forum and now this, you've really started to strike me as a fanboy, Iggy. :smooch:

I could be wrong, [I]maybe[/I], but I'm willing to bet that the only system you own is the PS2 and that you don't have much experience with either GameCube or Xbox. Methinks if your parents went out and bought you one of those suckers, you'd be changing your tune quickly.

I like PS2 a lot also, but I give the other systems their due too.

[ZeroBlade]

I had a feeling Microsoft was gonna do a price drop on this thing eventually since they have like what? no experince in selling hardware of that kind. They only do well in the software business and I still wonder why they tried such a move in the first place. Anyways despite the game DeathKnight said, I also hear GunValkiyre is pretty cool to. I've seen it in action and it pains me that I don't have a machine myself. Even with the price drop, I'm still not conviced with the system... Needs more great games like the ones just metioned in this thread, and seeing that there already was a price drop even before the system turn 1yr old is more like a warning sign for me to avoid the system than to buy at right away.... I'm gonna continue to monitor its performance and see what happens..... On the other hand there IS one thing I like about the system itself.......the ability to rip music off CDs and play them while playing a game. Now thats cool, I hope sony does the same thing when the HDD comes out next year. :p

[Charles]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ZeroG214 [/i]
[B]I also hear GunValkiyre is pretty cool to. I've seen it in action and it pains me that I don't have a machine myself. Even with the price drop, I'm still not conviced with the system... [/B][/QUOTE]

Ugh, that game has absolutely horrible controls.

*Holds up a crucifix*

Keep it away!

[iggy]

i actually have a gcube i sold my xbox cause i hated it
i said the squaresoft thing cause it is true
only stupid ppl would do that but it would be kinda good but squaresoft would lose money
and xbox got on my nerves especially caise its made by microsoft and i hate them so much so i just sold my box and i wasnt suprised with the price drop cause no one likes it pretty much

[The Vampire: Ed]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by iggy [/i]
[B]the lowered the price cause noone will buy it cause it sucks!!
and cause PS2 kills its soul [/B][/QUOTE]

Well done explaining things. You make my dog look like a genius with those types of posts. I'm not trying to be mean, but really try to better your post quality. That's mindless dribble as far as I'm concerned. As far as hating Mircosoft, well that's a rather poor excuse to hate the XBox.

Now, I was very weary of the XBox for a while. It's current game line up features tons of crap, but I can guarantee that for every one crappy XBox game there is about ten crappy PS2 games. The system has pretty much surprised me from day one. I loved the graphics it achieved in DOA2, and with more recent games like Spider Man out for it. Well, it just keeps on impressing me. It's a great system, but it's not at it's full potential yet. Not by far, so just wait around for a little while and we'll see pure greatness.

[*-- RagnaroK--*]

but I can guarantee that for every one crappy XBox game there is about ten crappy PS2 games. The system has pretty much surprised me from day one. I loved the graphics it achieved in DOA2, and with more recent games like Spider Man out for it. Well, it just keeps on impressing me. It's a great system, but it's not at it's full potential yet. Not by far, so just wait around for a little while and we'll see pure greatness. [/B][/QUOTE]

I just got my xbox today (just for shenmue) and the graphics rule!! i only got 2 games with it which are at the moment the two best games out, halo and DOA3. I must admit halo is pretty boring and reppetitive but doa3 rocks! It should be up there with the likes of Tekken 4 and virtua fighter.

anyway who says PS2 is crap?

[DeathKnight]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by *-- RagnaroK--* [/i]
[B]
anyway who says PS2 is crap? [/B][/QUOTE]

[color=crimson]Sigh. None of the Systems are [b]crap[/b].

The Gamecube will have the new Zelda Game, Mario Sunshine, the Star Fox Game, and Already Has Super Smash Brothers: Melee, the James Bond Game, Lugi's Mansion, and Rogue Squadron.

The Playstation 2 has too many resonably medicore games to high quality games to mention... the Final Fantasy Series alone made me want to get it, but there are also games like Armored Core 2, Grand Theft Auto 3, and Grand Turismo 3.

We've already talked about the Xbox games in this thread...

Those who say any of the systems are crap are either fanboys, or drunk monkeys...

End rant.[/color]

[The Vampire: Ed]

I definitely don't think PS2 is crap, I was merely using it as an example in the games department. I mean we've got to admit it, but the PS2 does have a lot of crappy games. They've got a lot of good ones as well, but with the amount of games they're pumping out ofcourse you will find a couple crappy ones in the bunch. But these days I have an open mind about games, and systems. Because so far, no system really sucks. The XBox is great thus far, as well is the Game Cube. But both Microsoft, and Nintendo need to start cranking out more games if they want to be anywhere near as successful as Sony. Like I said just stick around a little while, and pure greatness will come of the XBox and Game Cube. PS2 is close to greatness, but with all of the games they release they need to start setting standards.

[Charles]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Vampire: Ed [/i]
[B]I definitely don't think PS2 is crap, I was merely using it as an example in the games department. I mean we've got to admit it, but the PS2 does have a lot of crappy games. They've got a lot of good ones as well, but with the amount of games they're pumping out ofcourse you will find a couple crappy ones in the bunch. But these days I have an open mind about games, and systems. Because so far, no system really sucks. The XBox is great thus far, as well is the Game Cube. But both Microsoft, and Nintendo need to start cranking out more games if they want to be anywhere near as successful as Sony. Like I said just stick around a little while, and pure greatness will come of the XBox and Game Cube. PS2 is close to greatness, but with all of the games they release they need to start setting standards. [/B][/QUOTE]


Hmmm, I don't think that the PS2 is having as great a problem with poor titles as the original PSX had. There are just so many phenominal titles coming out of the pipes, that it's quite easy to avoid the lackluster titles. When the original PSX debuted, a lot of developers made poor games that demonstrated the basics of polygon technology, while providing little substance.

Battle Arena Toshinden is a prime example. That game combined awesome character designs and graphics, but failed to deliver rewarding gameplay. As the Playstation and the series aged, we saw newer titles combining rewarding gameplay with snazzy graphics. Thus, Toshinden faded away into obscurity.

Heck, some people rushed out crap because there was nothing else to rival it. Look at Beyond the Beyond. There was no effort put into that title to establish it as a leap up from the 16-Bit systems. However, since there were no RPGs, Sony was able to rush it out the door and even sell a few copies.

You say that Microsoft and Nintendo need to start cranking out titles to keep up with Sony, but I couldn't disagree more. Xbox has had more titles than GameCube recently, but that doesn't mean that people will buy them. A lot of horrible titles actually reflects badly on the system. I mean, the obvious goal of a new console is to establish a user base by making quality titles that people will buy in the future.

Really, you're setting a double standard here. You're saying that both Nintendo and Xbox need to pump out more games, but Sony needs to release more quality titles and less bad ones. Always remember that with a lot of titles, comes a lot of bad ones. I think that the most important thing is releasing a variety of titles that appeal to a large audience.

[*-- RagnaroK--*]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Vampire: Ed [/i]
[B]I definitely don't think PS2 is crap, I was merely using it as an example in the games department.

Come on, please, the games are not crappy! Some are, but still when you look at games like FFX and MGS2, wont it cancel out all of those rubbish games?

Think about it OK. :mrt:

[The Vampire: Ed]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by *-- RagnaroK--* [/i]
Come on, please, the games are not crappy! Some are, but still when you look at games like FFX and MGS2, wont it cancel out all of those rubbish games?

Think about it OK. :mrt: [/B][/QUOTE]

I know where you're coming from, but that's a poor comment. I mean think about it. Good games can't cancel out bad games. It's not like thanks to FFX all of the bad games magically vanish. Sure, FFX and MGS2 are great! Awesome in fact. But they cannot make people forget about the other games that are crap.

[RicoTranzrig]

[COLOR=darkblue]Of course...no one can make up for lackluster titles that some developers dish out, that's their own choice if they want to improve their games or not. And it doesn't neccecarily taint the system in anyway. People tend to forget about the bad games... It's always a given that there is going to be "crap" but does it really matter? Plus, its difficult for developers to develop games with such the complex structure of the PS2 as opposed to the X-box or Gamecube. It's only been 2 years...I don't think anyone has "milked" the next-generation consoles to their full potential yet.[/COLOR]

[James]

[color=royalblue]At this point in time, having horrible games is simply unacceptable. If developers haven't unlocked the PS2's abilities yet, they probably never will. At this point, developers should be comfortable with the hardware.

Having said that, you have to look at things as a whole. You must look at the ratio of mediocre titles compared to the good titles.

And in truth, the console with the highest game library (PS2) is bound, by default, to have the biggest bad:good game ratio. The more quantity you have, the more poor-quality titles will slip through. It's as simple as that.

Does that make the PS2 bad? Of course not. If you can find games on the console that you like, then you've made a good investment. The same goes for any other console out there.[/color]

[Guest Legend_Brolly]

:worried: :worried: OK, OK, maybe my theory for good games bad games doesnt work for everyone,but let me tell you, it worked for me! :)

[*-- RagnaroK--*]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Legend_Brolly [/i]
[B]:worried: :worried: OK, OK, maybe my theory for good games bad games doesnt work for everyone,but let me tell you, it worked for me! :) [/B][/QUOTE]

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THIS IS *-- RAGNAROKS--* REPLY, I WAS LOGGED INTO MY BROTHERS NAME BY ACCIDENT!!!

SORRY :(

[Charles]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i]
[B][color=royalblue]

Does that make the PS2 bad? Of course not. If you can find games on the console that you like, then you've made a good investment. The same goes for any other console out there.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE]

Yep, 'tis true, 'tis true. The only problem is when the crap games drown out the good titles.

*Still waiting for Panzer Dragoon Xbox*

[James]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Crazy White Boy [/i]
[B]

Yep, 'tis true, 'tis true. The only problem is when the crap games drown out the good titles.

[/B][/QUOTE]

[color=royalblue]Yep. This is a major problem for Xbox.

In terms of Panzer Dragoon...I'm really looking forward to it, but I fear that the mediocre Xbox controller could negatively affect the game. :(

Even if the game is well developed...nothing can fix that controller (short of getting a different kind).

If they release that "updated" version here, i'll be sure to get it.[/color]

[MarkM]

X-box rules defently buy it! and JSRF is the best game i have ever played. Get that and JSRF and you will be hooked up. Btw people only think ps2 is better because it has more games out at the moment! Btw James I just got my June issue of Xbox nation the new controler will be priced just as the ones out as of now($30.00). And will be released very soon. The ardicle didn't give a date but i will be realised very soon it said.

[ZeroBlade]

I still don't have a X-box because there are very few games I like. My view on things is wait and see who has the better games..... Right now I have a PS2 with 11 games and I didn't get the system until like a year and a half later after it was released. Heck, I didn't get my PSX until 3 or 4 years after its release. The GCN and Xbox are great machines, but its the games I like that I'm more concerned with. Right now there's only 3 games that are only for each machine and any others I like have ps2 versions out as well. So I'll only get an Xbox when its looks like the better games will show up there but like I said earlier, having a price drop now isn't a good sign if you ask me.

[*-- RagnaroK--*]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ZeroG214 [/i]
[B]I still don't have a X-box because there are very few games I like. My view on things is wait and see who has the better games..... Right now I have a PS2 with 11 games and I didn't get the system until like a year and a half later after it was released. Heck, I didn't get my PSX until 3 or 4 years after its release. The GCN and Xbox are great machines, but its the games I like that I'm more concerned with. Right now there's only 3 games that are only for each machine and any others I like have ps2 versions out as well. So I'll only get an Xbox when its looks like the better games will show up there but like I said earlier, having a price drop now isn't a good sign if you ask me. [/B][/QUOTE]

Believe me, all you need on the xbox is Halo, and DOA3. The only reason i got an xbox was for the shenmue series, and i know that these to cool games will keep me busy until then. And also with the price drop, who knows what the future will bring!
But for now, i strongly advise you get one!