Gaming FF on Gamecube, WHEN

[kizu]

Personally my favorite game type is Rpgs. And I was quite shaken when I heard this news about the Legendary gaming series returning to Nintendo. And now nearly everyone who has a Gamecube is awaiting the time when the first of many (hoping here) FF games will released. But it seams like they are never going to be released. I read something in either Nintendo Power or Electronic Gaming Monthly that said to expect the first game to be released around March of 2003. I was just wonrdering if that date was correct.

[Charles]

Well, Square has stated that it would not jeopardize its relationship with Sony or disrupt future plans for the Final Fantasy franchise on Sony's console. Right now, it seems as if Game Designers' Studios's (the subsidary to produce titles under the deal with Nintendo) initial focus is the GameBoy Advance. So, huge titles like Final Fantasy [B]might[/B] be safe with Sony for a while.

Strongly rumored to appear on the GameBoy Advance, is Final Fantasy Tactics, though. Although it isn't a big new title, FFT is definitely an awesome game. Ah well, hopefully we'll see a new Super Mario RPG. Such a collaboration would rank right up there with anything else. ;)

[RicoTranzrig]

I've always had this strange feeling that Square and Nintendo would make the perfect couple if they would have just compromised with each other. But no Square titles coming out to GameCube yet...

[Kristoff119]

There are some screen shots of FFT in the newest EGM, and it would be so cool if either Super Mario Advance 5 or even an earlier one were Super Mario RPG or a sequel.

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[SIZE=1]Final Fantasy X won't be coming to the GCN, but I'm pretty sure that whenever Final Fantasy XI comes out, it will be on the GCN as well.[/SIZE]

[Guest Solid Snake]

[color=teal]Much of this discussion has already been mentioned in previous threads, where quite a few details have been noted.

For one, the Final Fantasys arn't going to be what they seem when porting to the GCN, so don't count on witnessing the same series on both PlayStation [i]and[/i] GameCube. Each will have it's own FFs that are exlcusive to the platform. How do we know this? Because GameBoy Advance is garanteed a peice of FF history (probably I - IV, though IV was never released outside of Japan) and Nintendo specifically made it clear that there is no deal if GCN is not included. We are also sure that Sony is going to continue their exculsive FF series on their own console, which will not spread to others. This will most likely result in Final Fantasy Unlimited, an anime that had premiered in Japan, for GameCube. Either way, Square will be satisfying all you diehard Nintendo fans out there, and even if it may take nearly a year to complete, it will be worth it.[/color]

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[Charles]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Solid Snake [/i]
[B][color=teal]Much of this discussion has already been mentioned in previous threads, where quite a few details have been noted.

For one, the Final Fantasys arn't going to be what they seem when porting to the GCN, so don't count on witnessing the same series on both PlayStation [i]and[/i] GameCube. Each will have it's own FFs that are exlcusive to the platform. How do we know this? Because GameBoy Advance is garanteed a peice of FF history (probably I - IV, though IV was never released outside of Japan) and Nintendo specifically made it clear that there is no deal if GCN is not included. We are also sure that Sony is going to continue their exculsive FF series on their own console, which will not spread to others. This will most likely result in Final Fantasy Unlimited, an anime that had premiered in Japan, for GameCube. Either way, Square will be satisfying all you diehard Nintendo fans out there, and even if it may take nearly a year to complete, it will be worth it.[/color]

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Hmm, yeah it's all still pretty much clouded. Rumor has it that some Sony reps are quite unhappy with Square's new interest in the GameCube platform. One would assume that Square wouldn't do anything to upset its business with Sony [I]too[/I] much considering that Sony holds such a big share of Squares' stock.

I really think that Square will ease its way into the deal and wait until it has a larger staff within GDS before it attempts a huge title, like Final Fantasy. [B]But,[/B] considering that Akitoshi Kawazu is hte sole employee of GDS, it's a pretty safe bet that we'll be seeing games like SaGa Frontier and Legends of Mana make their way over to GameCube.

Plus, we can't forget the promise of GameBoy Avance/GameCube connectivity in Square's games.

So, don't really think of this deal soley on a Final Fantasy front everyone. I know it's an exciting prospectl, but I predict that we won't be seeing it for quite some time. Heck, almost anything is a possibility though, and Square has some other decent franchises (some of which I mentioned). Just be satisfied there's a deal and that the potential's there.

[iggy]

squaresoft must be crazy to let FF games go to nintendo

[Charles]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by iggy [/i]
[B]squaresoft must be crazy to let FF games go to nintendo [/B][/QUOTE]

Um, why is that? Don't forget that they started with the Famicom. ;)

Anyway, they would have [I]always[/I] been on Nintendo had they not stuck with the cartridge format with the N64. Square estimated that it would have taken 13 carts to fit FF7. In the end, it all came down to which hardware could satisfy Square and their amibitions.

[Guest Solid Snake]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Crazy White Boy [/i]
[B]

Hmm, yeah it's all still pretty much clouded. Rumor has it that some Sony reps are quite unhappy with Square's new interest in the GameCube platform. One would assume that Square wouldn't do anything to upset its business with Sony [I]too[/I] much considering that Sony holds such a big share of Squares' stock.

I really think that Square will ease its way into the deal and wait until it has a larger staff within GDS before it attempts a huge title, like Final Fantasy. [B]But,[/B] considering that Akitoshi Kawazu is hte sole employee of GDS, it's a pretty safe bet that we'll be seeing games like SaGa Frontier and Legends of Mana make their way over to GameCube.

Plus, we can't forget the promise of GameBoy Avance/GameCube connectivity in Square's games.

So, don't really think of this deal soley on a Final Fantasy front everyone. I know it's an exciting prospectl, but I predict that we won't be seeing it for quite some time. Heck, almost anything is a possibility though, and Square has some other decent franchises (some of which I mentioned). Just be satisfied there's a deal and that the potential's there. [/B][/QUOTE]
[color=teal]First of all, I do not see how my previous information is clouded when most of the time it appears as if you are refering to my writing as being correct. I do not deny that Sony would be upset about the alliance growing with Square and Nintendo, for reasons regarding from Square's developement in the beginning, to Sony owning 19% of their stock share.

As for Final Fantasy, I can see how you may picture that as a title for down the road, but I was merely replying to the topic at hand which just happened to be Final Fantasy, not, as you say, about Square's possible [i]first[/i] appearences on GameCube. Therefore, I was giving my expertise on how that could come about, rather then when. Yes, I did say that it might be about a year until completion, but that could be anyone's guess, there is no certainty.

I am very excited for Square coming back, as a whole. Not only is this for GCN, but also for GameBoy Advance, which I hope (like you say) to see hook-ups. On topic, I would especially like to see connectivity for Final Fantasy, though I am unsure of how it would be done. One way or another, Square will come up with something, and I am positive that we will all one day be pleased with the outcome.[/color]

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[Charles]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Solid Snake [/i]
[B]
[color=teal]First of all, I do not see how my previous information is clouded when most of the time it appears as if you are refering to my writing as being correct. I do not deny that Sony would be upset about the alliance growing with Square and Nintendo, for reasons regarding from Square's developement in the beginning, to Sony owning 19% of their stock share.

As for Final Fantasy, I can see how you may picture that as a title for down the road, but I was merely replying to the topic at hand which just happened to be Final Fantasy, not, as you say, about Square's possible [i]first[/i] appearences on GameCube. Therefore, I was giving my expertise on how that could come about, rather then when. Yes, I did say that it might be about a year until completion, but that could be anyone's guess, there is no certainty.

I am very excited for Square coming back, as a whole. Not only is this for GCN, but also for GameBoy Advance, which I hope (like you say) to see hook-ups. On topic, I would especially like to see connectivity for Final Fantasy, though I am unsure of how it would be done. One way or another, Square will come up with something, and I am positive that we will all one day be pleased with the outcome.[/color]

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Hehe, I didn't mean that what you were saying was clouded. I meant that the situation as a whole is clouded. I didn' really try to directly debate anything you said. I quoted you to back up my own points. Is everything cool man? lol.

[Guest Solid Snake]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Crazy White Boy [/i]
[B]

Hehe, I didn't mean that what you were saying was clouded. I meant that the situation as a whole is clouded. I didn' really try to directly debate anything you said. I quoted you to back up my own points. Is everything cool man? lol. [/B][/QUOTE]
[COLOR=teal]Oh, I see. I must have gotten so used to you disagreeing with my post one way or another, that I automatically assumed I was in for some explaining and had not even noticed that you were actually agreeing with me, heh. I do hope that I can be forgiven for the slight misunderstanding. And yes, everything is cool.[/COLOR]

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[Charles]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Solid Snake [/i]
[B]
[COLOR=teal]Oh, I see. I must have gotten so used to you disagreeing with my post one way or another, that I automatically assumed I was in for some explaining and had not even noticed that you were actually agreeing with me, heh. I do hope that I can be forgiven for the slight misunderstanding. And yes, everything is cool.[/COLOR]

:blah: [/B][/QUOTE]

I know how you feel. I was so used to you being wrong all the time, that I almost didn't realize that I was agreeing with you, lol. j/k

Of course all is forgiven. Everyone makes mistakes. :toothy:

[iggy]

i mean ff did start out on nintendo but with ps2s popularity it wouldnt be a porfit
but im for it coming out on the Q

[Desbreko]

[color=indigo]Well, they're planning on releasing at least one game before the end of 2002. What this game is, I don't think they've said. Square [i]has[/i] said that FF Tactics is being remade for the GBA, though. I will be buying it, since I never played it on the PS1, and because I've heard that it's really good.

Another thing to note is that Game Designers Studio will be using money from Fund Q, a fund set up by Hiroshi Yamauchi (the president of Nintendo Co. Ltd.). Specifically, that fund is for making games that use the connectivity of the GBA and GCN. So, you can be pretty sure that there will be at least one game that makes use of this feature.

And I don't see how it would hurt Square's profits, if they released FF games on the GCN and/or GBA... After all, that's just more people that will be buying their games... So it would increase their profits, I'd think.[/color]

[Kristoff119]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Solid Snake [/i]
[B][color=teal]probably I - IV, though IV was never released outside of Japan[/color][/B][/QUOTE]

IV has been realesed in the USA, but its title was FF2 on the SNES and IV on the PSX. I really hope that they release V because I have heard that it is a really good game also.

[RicoTranzrig]

V is on PSone under FF Anthologies...not sure about if any Nintendo versions outside of Japan are being re-released.

[Guest Solid Snake]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Kristoff119 [/i]
[B]IV has been realesed in the USA, but its title was FF2 on the SNES and IV on the PSX. I really hope that they release V because I have heard that it is a really good game also. [/B][/QUOTE]
[color=teal]Ah, yes, the dreaded number mix-up that gave America the bad end of a deal. But one game specifically stands out in my mind that supposedly never left Japan because of it's being too "graphic," in which nudity played a part. If it wasn't IV, then which Final Fantasy was it?[/color]
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Crazy White Boy[/i]
[b]I was so used to you being wrong all the time, that I almost didn't realize that I was agreeing with you, lol. j/k[/b][/QUOTE]
[color=teal]Heh, I was used to me being wrong too. There is always one in the bunch garanteed to disagree with a statement or two of my own.[/color]

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[Desbreko]

[color=indigo]Hmm... somehow I kind of doubt that it was before FFII/IV... The only FF games in the main series (Don't know about others, like the FF Legend games on the GB) that weren't released in the US are FFII, and FFIII (Japanese numbering). Those are on the FamiCom, so I don't think you'd really be able to tell that the characters were nude, LOL. Unless it told you, that is. :laugh: I'm guessing that that's just a rumor, myself.[/color]

[RicoTranzrig]

Nudity in an FF game?

I've only heard rumors that in FFVI (jp) since the cartridge was significantly larger than most Super Famicom games (32MB?) so they put in Amano sketches at the end of the game, I think the nudity comes in when they show the sketched of Celes (In prisoner's shackles) and Terra (In Esper form)...I really don't know though...