wrist cutter Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i] [B]In any case, even a real drummer is used...most rock music today is so laced with electronics, that it kind of becomes irrelevant...electronics have unquestionably become a major part of all forms of music. [/B][/QUOTE] Not in the oldschool bluegrass I listen to, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by wrist cutter [/i] [B] Not in the oldschool bluegrass I listen to, man. [/B][/QUOTE] [color=royalblue]:drunk: Yeah, if you read above, I did actually say "depending on the kind of music you listen to". :)[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted May 8, 2002 Author Share Posted May 8, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by wrist cutter [/i] [B] Not in the oldschool bluegrass I listen to, man. [/B][/QUOTE] Perhaps thats why you don't like Neo Universe so much :p It's very electronic in sound... Well I won't deny that electronics are used in music... with the ever growing technology comes improvements. Digitally recordings, digital sounds, etc etc. But when I look at my list of rock music groups... everyone's got a drummer, or if they don't have a drummer as part of the group, they have a drummer play the drum beats... and in most of the songs, they have a real drummer playing... As far as pop goes, thats a totally different story... rock always seems to be that kind of music that stays back in time. They haven't leaped forward in technology like pop has... they have no need to really. I mean, sure, a few technological adavnces here and there (vocals, guitar, etc) but not nearly as much as pop. Rock stars tend to "keep it real"... they play their own instruments, write their own songs, and sing.... do it all at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i] [B] Well I won't deny that electronics are used in music... with the ever growing technology comes improvements. Digitally recordings, digital sounds, etc etc. But when I look at my list of rock music groups... everyone's got a drummer, or if they don't have a drummer as part of the group, they have a drummer play the drum beats... and in most of the songs, they have a real drummer playing... As far as pop goes, thats a totally different story... rock always seems to be that kind of music that stays back in time. They haven't leaped forward in technology like pop has... they have no need to really. I mean, sure, a few technological adavnces here and there (vocals, guitar, etc) but not nearly as much as pop. Rock stars tend to "keep it real"... they play their own instruments, write their own songs, and sing.... do it all at the same time. [/B][/QUOTE] [color=royalblue]You're definitely right. But most rock music today would sound completely different if it weren't for electronic technology, whether it be something more advanced (like a computer) or something more simple (like basic distortions and such). In truth, the rock genre is hardly untouched when it comes to technology. The only genres that are still almost completely untouched are the more traditional country and classical genres. Of course, in even genre, you still have completely non-electronic groups. But these days, it's incredibly rare.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven's Cloud Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 [color=indigo] I think electronic beats are great, and for those of you who like techno, more power to you. However, I do feel that you lose most of the artistic feeling when you electonicize beats. I can go to my neighbors, who has a small production studio, and create solos on almost every instrument...but it doesn't sound nearly as good as when I am playing my trumpet or wailing on the guitar, or when my buddy is going bannanas on his drum set. There is just a lack of INSTRUMENTAL (i want to make that clear because I am sure people like Paul Okenfeild are just as passionate about their music as any other musicain) passion.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semjaza Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 I don't know... The Beatles didn't INVENT rock, they basically popularized it and helped bring it out of the idea that "rock is devil music." I know they influenced it a lot, but it wasn't their creation. Music sucks in America if you go by the radio. They play what the average idiot here wants to here. Personally, I find that if you find a type of music you like and stick with the more "underground" stuff, you are going to find things you like a lot more. There are so many good local bands here, and smaller punk, rock and industrial bands in the country that get NO breaks or radio play. Honestly, I don't like most techno... it depends. I like bands that use electronics in their music (which is basically everyone now, but anyway) such as Cibo Matto... They make good and obvious use of it, rather than 5 minutes of one constant beat that drives me insane. I haven't even liked most of the recent stuff out of Europe. I'm generally not into the styles that are doing well over there right now. But yeah it does seem they get into stuff way before America even hears of it. To me popularity does not equal good, no matter what place in the world it's at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted May 8, 2002 Author Share Posted May 8, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i] [B] [color=royalblue]You're definitely right. But most rock music today would sound completely different if it weren't for electronic technology, whether it be something more advanced (like a computer) or something more simple (like basic distortions and such). In truth, the rock genre is hardly untouched when it comes to technology. The only genres that are still almost completely untouched are the more traditional country and classical genres. Of course, in even genre, you still have completely non-electronic groups. But these days, it's incredibly rare.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] Well yes thats absolutely true, however I was speaking more on the lines of drums... only in this case... obviously, the work of distortions in guitars and vocals is very prominant in todays music, whether rock or anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posthumous Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 Eiffel 65 rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrcjrc Posted May 15, 2002 Share Posted May 15, 2002 I didn't realise how behind America was compared to Britain where I'm from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthasar Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 I agree that America is very behind on the music front, but I'd bet you'd be suprised to know that England gets a lot of the backlash music from America. We have less Techno in the charts, than new metal and rap, which is basicaly fed to us from the US. I think that England is still clinging to the US in certain respects, will channles like MTV and KISS, but we are catching up with the rest of the world much more quickly than they are. Personaly, I love bands like X, but I can't really get hold of that kind of music becasue of the US influence on our country :( its quite sad really, Luv Balthasar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cloricus Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 New to this thread but I always thought America was ahead of Australia on music!? (I've read the first page...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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