Trunks02 Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 I'm not trying to talk badly about Vegeta or make his fans angry at me. But I'm just wondering if anyone besides me thinks Vegeta is a crybaby and cheater? The reason I think he is is because he cried agains't Brolli because he was LSSJ and pretty much untouchable, he also cried agains't Furiza, and I've heard he cries in Buu saga. He also is a bit of a cheater. On planet Namek he threw sand into Zarbon's face when they first battled. He even cheated to reach his Super Saiya-jin levels. He reached SSJ on his own, but he used the Majin power boost to reach SSJ2, and he used the Brute Ray to skip SSJ3 and reach SSJ4. And to add to things...his lost way more fights then his won and usually turns into some cry baby when there's someone who is about to kick his ***** and he cant do sh*t about it. So I just want to find out if anyone agrees with me. And I'm not trying to make any of his fans p*ssed at me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 All of that is true exept Vegeta didnt cheat to become SSJ2. He just powered up and became SSJ2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 Vegeta may be a cheater, but in no way is he a Crybaby!!! He might complain but that doesn't make him a crybaby....................... There is nothing wrong with cheating and there's nothing wrong with VEGETA!!!!!!! sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kei Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 No, he's not a crybaby or a cheater. He might complain sometimes when he thinks (or knows when it comes to Goku) that someone is better than him, but that's just his nature from him being a prince. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 i would also say vegeta is not guilty of any of the above. vegeta has a great sense of pride and that can be a handicap greater than any other. movie 12, "ah, thats what i would expect from my proud saiyan prince" goku about vegeta when in an emotional moment. as for cheating. if you have read any bruce lee, you know, from real life. youll know there is no such thing as cheating in a fight. gentlemen just end up lossing. trust me. vegeta is a better charector than goku. i still like goku more. i aspire to be what he is. pure hearted, detatched, loving, honorable. but, vegeta is who i really am. easily to inflame, angry with those around him, but even more in vegeta you see the real life side of a person. hes not mad a kakorat. hes mad at himself. he struggles to be the person he wants to be, and i do to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiroMunkie Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 [color=indigo][b]1.[/b] Vegeta doesn't cheat. He just fights dirty, and finds the easy way to do things. Why does he fight dirty? well for one he is a Saiya-jin, and Saiya-jins are naturally ruthless S.O.B.'s. He is also a Saiya-jin Prince, so he has that good ol' pride hanging over his head, and he will do whatever it takes to keep that pride. Why does he find the easy way to do things? It's faster with the same results. :p [b]2.[/b] Just because Vegeta cries does not mean he is a baby about everything. He cries in the Furiza Saga. Why? He is telling the story of the Saiya-jin demise. His whole entire race murdered. How would [i]you[/i] feel if I came and killed everyone in your family and laughed about it? Chances are you'd be crying to. He wasn't mad at the time because he knew there was nothing more he could do, he just had to convince Gokou to kill Furiza and not let him off. He cries in the Buu Saga. Why? His Saiya-jin pride being trampled on. Simple as that. If someone stripped you of your pride you would be crying to. I have not seen any of the movies with Brolli in them, but I'm sure there is good reason for his tears.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 i would not say that vegeta is a crybaby, he just cares about his pride to much. but i do think he cheats but there are very few peple who don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikey Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 [COLOR=indigo]I don't think he is a crybaby at all. If I get hurt, really bad or something in that addition, I might cry. But it really depends on what happens to me. Vegeta might cry, but he's a heck of a lot stronger than you. So I wouldn't be calling him a crybaby. He is more powerful, and stronger than you think. I would not dare to call him a crybaby. I know I might sound a little weird but still he is not a crybaby. I know what he does. He odesn't cheat at all. He might just play a trick, or fight evil, but he doesn't vheat 1 bit. He mightfight with hate inside him, but no cheating goes on when he fights. Like for example: when he fought Goku during the Buu saga, he plaued a trick on him. He just said: "Yeah your right." Goku tried to convince him to fight Buu together. He saya "Ok," or something like that. When Goku is not looking he elbows Goku right in that back. See that's just fighting dirty and playing a trick. Not cheating at all.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 I don't think he's either... I fail to see how he is either a "cheat" or a "crybaby"... He doesn't whine about this or that. He is a fighter, and he always wants to be the strongest, and when he isn't he gets jealous and angry. it's just how he is, and how most fighters are. he's more of what I'd call a perfectionist, not a crybaby. As far as Cheating goes... It's not his fault Babidi took over him and made him Majin and gave him this excess power. It's not his fault BULMA created the brute ray and then blasted him with it. And even so... if you had the opportunity to be MUCH stronger with the press of a button, you'd do it in a second and you know it. I'd call that strategy, not cheating. As far as throwing sand in Zarbons face... hey, you're fighting for your life. If you see an opportunity to get the upperhand, by golly, you'd better take it, or else You lose, you dead, you go bye bye. Ofcourse he cried in the Buu saga and the Furiiza saga... HE WAS F-ING KILLED! If I shot you in the chest, unliek Vegita who was shot in the heart, you'd cry like a little girl too. In the Buu saga he committed suicide basically and he was leaving his son and the woman he loved without him... If you were him, you'd cry to if you loved them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiroMunkie Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i] [B]As far as Cheating goes... It's not his fault Babidi took over him and made him Majin and gave him this excess power. It's not his fault BULMA created the brute ray and then blasted him with it. And even so... if you had the opportunity to be MUCH stronger with the press of a button, you'd do it in a second and you know it. I'd call that strategy, not cheating. As far as throwing sand in Zarbons face... hey, you're fighting for your life. If you see an opportunity to get the upperhand, by golly, you'd better take it, or else You lose, you dead, you go bye bye.[/B][/QUOTE][color=indigo]Actually, it [i]is[/i] his fault that he was possessed by Babidi. He even said that he let Babidi take over so he could become stronger. And if my sources are correct, didn't Vegeta ask Bulma to build something that would allow him to get stronger? I think I remember seeing that somewhere. But yes, even so, it is still just a type of strategy.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted May 11, 2002 Share Posted May 11, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by PiroMunkie [/i] [B][color=indigo]Actually, it [i]is[/i] his fault that he was possessed by Babidi. He even said that he let Babidi take over so he could become stronger. And if my sources are correct, didn't Vegeta ask Bulma to build something that would allow him to get stronger? I think I remember seeing that somewhere. But yes, even so, it is still just a type of strategy.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] Well, still... Babidi didn't HAVE to take over Vegita's mind.. and Bulma didn't HAVE to shoot him with the ray... either way, Vegita did neither of the two... plus... Vegita' greedy... why not get more power?... yeah... thats the ticket.... ::runs off in puff of smoke:: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i] [B] Well, still... Babidi didn't HAVE to take over Vegita's mind.. and Bulma didn't HAVE to shoot him with the ray... either way, Vegita did neither of the two... plus... Vegita' greedy... why not get more power?... yeah... thats the ticket.... ::runs off in puff of smoke:: [/B][/QUOTE] vegeta could have prevented both babidy taking over his mind and bulma shooting him with the brute ray, but i don't think that is cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BulmaVegeta1 Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 He's just an arrogant, greedy, rude person! If I had said something like this 5 months ago, I would've banged my head against a wall. He used to be my favorite character, but I've changed. Anyway, I do think he's a crybaby with an attitude problem, and I'm glad that in GT he's a pretty nice guy. I guess I can't blame him for crying...anyone, even him, who has a heart will or would cry....Well, I do have a lot more to say, but it's 1:00 in the morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSJ Gotenks ok Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by gokents [/i] [B]i would also say vegeta is not guilty of any of the above. vegeta has a great sense of pride and that can be a handicap greater than any other. movie 12, "ah, thats what i would expect from my proud saiyan prince" goku about vegeta when in an emotional moment. as for cheating. if you have read any bruce lee, you know, from real life. youll know there is no such thing as cheating in a fight. gentlemen just end up lossing. trust me. vegeta is a better charector than goku. i still like goku more. i aspire to be what he is. pure hearted, detatched, loving, honorable. but, vegeta is who i really am. easily to inflame, angry with those around him, but even more in vegeta you see the real life side of a person. hes not mad a kakorat. hes mad at himself. he struggles to be the person he wants to be, and i do to. [/B][/QUOTE] Couldnt have said it better myself:DWhy didn't vegita reach level ssj3??:worried: And u really pissed off alot of people with this thread:laugh: Vegita iz tha best!!!!:demon: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Heaven Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 how is vegeta a cheater if there are no rules. I also don't see how he is a crybaby. He complains and whines about the others being weak but he dosnt go crying to his mommy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakkarot ssj4 Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Blue Heaven [/i] [B]how is vegeta a cheater if there are no rules. I also don't see how he is a crybaby. He complains and whines about the others being weak but he dosnt go crying to his mommy. [/B][/QUOTE] the reason he doesnt go crying to his mommy is because she's dead....no..vegeta isnt a crybaby... the reason vegeta didnt go ssj3 is because he didnt have the motive and power.. also he didnt really need it...he just went super 4 (aka ssj4) at the time or fused.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted May 13, 2002 Share Posted May 13, 2002 as was said before, he cries with good reason, as does anyone in real life, if you cried at a funeral would that make you a crybaby? didn't think so.... so what if vegita let bulma use the brute ray on him, if you have a chance to get stronger then you might as well take it, and given the circumstances, he HAD to get stronger.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCBaggee Posted May 13, 2002 Share Posted May 13, 2002 [color=red][size=3]I hate to break it to you, but Vegeta crying on Namek was an emotional point, so it's actually pretty cool. And I think he cried in Buu Saga just before dieing, because he loved Bulma and Trunks so much, so that's cool too. Don't knock the man for having emotions! :D [/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vampire: Ed Posted May 13, 2002 Share Posted May 13, 2002 Well, look at it this way. Vegita is a prince of pure, and royal blood. He is supposed to be the most powerful warrior of all Sayjins, and since his entire home planet is destroyied. Only he, and Goku are the last pure Sayjins left. Now Vegita's suppose to be the prince, while Goku was suppose to be just a common Sayjin. Now if you were Vegita wouldn't you have a lot to be pissed off about when you see the mere common Sayjin, Goku surpassing you? Of course! Especially since everytime Vegita evens his power out with Goku, Goku always somehow pulls back ahead of him. PLUS, Gohan even became a Super Sayjin before Vegita! If I were Vegita I would probably be flipping out more than his does in the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachary Posted May 13, 2002 Share Posted May 13, 2002 Vegeta is no crybaby. I dont think hes ever cried. But he does have too much pride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCBaggee Posted May 13, 2002 Share Posted May 13, 2002 [color=red][size=3]What?! Vegeta became a Super Saiyan long before Gohan ever did...Gohan hit SSL2 before Vegeta did though.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris Posted May 13, 2002 Share Posted May 13, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Zachary [/i] [B]Vegeta is no crybaby. I dont think hes ever cried. But he does have too much pride [/B][/QUOTE]vegeta has cried. just read the thred. a lot of people have pointed out places were he has cried. i'm not saying that makes him a crybaby, i'm just he has cried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vampire: Ed Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JCBaggee [/i] [B][color=red][size=3]What?! Vegeta became a Super Saiyan long before Gohan ever did...Gohan hit SSL2 before Vegeta did though.[/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] Whoops, my fault. I confused the two events. Well, anyway I think everyone get's my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*-- RagnaroK--* Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 There is no way that he is a crybaby or cheater. He gets jealous easily but never is a crybaby. He cried in the freeza saga because he was brought back to those memories of whn he was a child and was overpowered by freeza, and when his father was killed at the hands of him. so its his pride that allows him to do such things. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinzam v Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 Well i think vegeta is always crying on how goku is always 1 step ahead of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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