Are you a believer?

[Kei]

I can't exaclty recall if somebody already did this thread, and if so, my apologies. Anyway, on with the point. Do you believe in all that paranormal stuff like the Loch Ness Monster and Bigfoot, and Spontaneous Human Combustion?

[Boba Fett]

I think all that stuff is hoaxs and nonsense. If these things really existed , some soild evidence would have turned up by now. I mean, why hasnt anybody ever found a dead loch ness monster?
People have searched for years and what have they found? Nothing! These things in my opinoin are stupid hoaxes.

[Yukazi]

Well, even thought there is no proof any of it is real, I myself like to believe there is something out there...

Now, Spontaneous Human Combustion, that I really do think happens. People would be found where they last were, only a few body parts remaining and the rest completely gone...No fire can completely destroy bone. Except for the humans own body. Me? I blame it on stomach acid escaping...It is the only conclusion I can come up with that makes sense to me...

Here's something...Everybody has a 6th sense...Everyone can tell when another Human is around (ex: In the same room) and not seen...But they can feel the presence of the second person...

[Char!]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Boba Fett [/i]
[B]I think all that stuff is hoaxs and nonsense. If these things really existed , some soild evidence would have turned up by now. I mean, why hasnt anybody ever found a dead loch ness monster?
People have searched for years and what have they found? Nothing! These things in my opinoin are stupid hoaxes. [/B][/QUOTE]

Then again, people have come very close to finding [i]something[/i] in Loch Ness. I believe that something may have been there, and in fact something may still be.

As for the whole spontaneous combustion thingy, who knows? It's probably just another of those stupid hoaxes...

[Guest cloricus]

I put don't care because I really don't. I have seen things that you would call paranormal but they could have logical reasons. But I don't believe in the Loch Ness Monster and Bigfoot (that doesn?t mean they don't exist). Spontaneous Human Combustion is possible in scientific reports.

[JCBaggee]

[color=red][size=3]Hey, whatever helps you guys sleep at night...

I believe it's all true, but to some extent we're making it bigger than it is. Let's face it, if you walked into a room and found someones arms and legs laying around, but nothing else, you're going to exaggerate a little bit...[/color][/size]

[The One]

[B] I believe that all these paranormal creatures exist and that all the strange stuff that 'happens' usually does. But thats just because I have an open mind LoL, yeah some stupid people do make hoaxes and stuff but i think that the majority of claims have a base of truth to them however many claimants may...you know....elaborate on the truth...like...tell lies and stuff.[/B]

[PiroMunkie]

[color=indigo]Yes, I do believe in those kind of things. I do not neccesarily believe that Sasquatch is one animal in itself. Its myth has been around for ages, it has to reproduce somehow. My whole theory about it that I have thought for a long time is that Sasquatch is man that evolved from apes, but never grew out of the ape phase. So it is basically a bipedal gaint ape. Its size comes from the fact that man is taller than an ape, but apes are physically bigger than man. So if you put two and two together you can see where its size would come into play. I believe they have the inabilty to speak modern tongue, which leaves them plenty of spare time to think and chances are it is much more intelligent and prophetical then us. It knows to hide from humans because all we will want to do is cage it. So to be blunt, it is a biped apeman that lives like a hermit. :) Rarr...

As for the Loch Ness Monster, I do not so much believe this one. There is not quite as much proof on this one as there is Big Foot. I believe this is due to the fact that about three fourths of the world is water, so there is plenty of room for it to get away from the eye of humans. I do not believe this one might hold as high as an intelligence as the Big Foot, just normal animal instinct.

Spontaneous Combustion? Heh heh, I am a pyromaniac. Of course I believe that one. It may not necessarily involve a fiery explosion, but any explosion is a good one :devil: There are surely reasons for it. For those of you who watch South Park, there was that one episode where people stopped passing gas and exploded that way, lol. Though I think you would be poisoned from that before anything. But there are plenty of chemicals and things in our body that who knows what could happen if they are mixed. Not to mention we have slight electric pulses in our body that I am sure are more than enough to ignite something if itwere to go wrong. Though chances are when it comes to this, it doesn't necessarily happen right away. Something in the body has to be hurting for a while before that. And the people decide not to do anything about it and soon enough they are gone.[/color]

[Guest Matt]

[color=red][b]I believe in these things. Except for Spontaneous Combustion. I just don't see how that's possible naturally....[/b][/color]

[James]

[color=royalblue]I don't really "believe" in this stuff because belief is a subjective word; it implies that your belief isn't a fact.

And if it's not a fact, then it's probably not truthful.

Having said that...I think that there are a lot of things out there which aren't properly investigated.

Usually, things that we find strange or "paranormal", have a fully reasonable explanation.

I mean, thousands of years ago, people couldn't explain the sun rising and setting...so they created myths to explain it. The same is true for today's "paranormal" experiences.[/color]

[BlueGender]

I do not blieve in big headed aliens that are green but I do believe that their is something in our universe which is alive besides us humans. I do not believe they are in our solar system but maybe they are lightyears away. I mean how can you believe in this HUGE universe we are the only living things that just seem gulible to me. I believe that these creatures could be exactly like us in that they breath oxygen but wether they are more advanced in technology or not I do not know.

[Heaven's Cloud]

[color=indigo] I have to agree with James almost fully (which is kind of odd because we seem to have slightly differing opinions most of the time). When people see things that they cannot fully rationalize and understand they tend to classify it as "mystical" or "paranormal", but if the events are explored in a more indepth mannor there tends to be a rational or scientific explanation.
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[James]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Heaven's Cloud [/i]
[B][color=indigo] I have to agree with James almost fully (which is kind of odd because we seem to have slightly differing opinions most of the time). When people see things that they cannot fully rationalize and understand they tend to classify it as "mystical" or "paranormal", but if the events are explored in a more indepth mannor there tends to be a rational or scientific explanation.
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[color=royalblue]Agreed.

As for the whole thing about aliens...well, I don't really consider aliens to be "paranormal".

I mean, if there are other species in the Universe, then we would be aliens to them as well...lol

And the concept of aliens is physically possible...it's something that doesn't contradict physics or biology...whereas something like ghosts or whatever is something that is a lot harder to prove (and strains credibility in so many ways).[/color]

[MarkM]

Well i think we all agree that some things we think are real dont exist. So yes and no is my answer.

[Amphion]

I beleive in them a little only because I have experienced a little bt of paranormal stuff myself but not alot. Some stuff is just stupid though.

[Tigervx]

its not like 10 facts, there are MILLIONS, possibly billions of cases such as ghost and ect! you cannot say EVERY single case is a hoax! thats just insane!

[wrist cutter]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Tigervx [/i]
[B]its not like 10 facts, there are MILLIONS, possibly billions of cases such as ghost and ect! you cannot say EVERY single case is a hoax![/B][/QUOTE]

Yes I can.

[Transtic Nerve]

As far as I can see things, there's neither 100% proof to proove or disproove the existence of the paranormal.

But I do believe in spirits, but, just like religion, realize there's not many facts to back it up.

[The Harlequin]

I'd have to say that I believe everything is possible. If this universe if as infinite as they all say it is, there would have to be some place, somewhere, where what we consider paranormal, is perfectly rational. Which brings up a debate is there really such a thing as paranormal at all, or is it just a word to describe events with a low probability of happening...

[Spikey]

I think there might be a such thing as the Locc Noss Monster. But Bif Foot is to far.

[Mina]

There are these fact/fic serials on TV. They show a bunch of paranormal stuff and they claim some of them really happened.
I never really belive them, but...

[Kei]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mina Karusala [/i]
[B]There are these fact/fic serials on TV. They show a bunch of paranormal stuff and they claim some of them really happened.
I never really belive them, but... [/B][/QUOTE]

I know what you mean. I used to watch Fear on MTV. I don't even know if it still comes on. I used to think all that stuff they had on the shows were real when I was little because my mom always made me through Unsolved Mysteries on Lifetime *shudder*, but then I thought about it. I mean, I myself believe in the fact that unexplained things can and do happen, but geez, with all the technology that's out there today, who can really tell?

[Roxie Faye]

Personally, I believe in all those things. I don't know why, I just do. I also think it's fun to believe in things like ghosts. makes life more interesting. If you want to go to a good website that deals with the paranormal, go to: [url]http://theshadowlands.net[/url] it's a good site.

I don't have any proof of what exists and what doesn't.
if you look at Cruizr's post, he has a good point on why spontaneous Human combustion is very possible.

[QUOTE][I]Originally posted by Cruizr[/I][B]
Well, even thought there is no proof any of it is real, I myself like to believe there is something out there...

Now, Spontaneous Human Combustion, that I really do think happens. People would be found where they last were, only a few body parts remaining and the rest completely gone...No fire can completely destroy bone. Except for the humans own body. Me? I blame it on stomach acid escaping...It is the only conclusion I can come up with that makes sense to me...[B][/QUOTE]

ok. in this thread, almost NO ONE else belives in SHC(Spontaneous Human Combustion)! here's why SHC is possible(and keep in mind, i'm not showing off how much i know or anything. heck, a week ago, i wouldn't be able to type what i'm about to type. i'm just explaining SHC):

Well, as Cruizr said, it could have something to do with stomach acid. the acidity level of Stomach acid(hydrochloric acid[yes, i took that from my science notes, hehe...]) is 1.1. something neutral is 7. anything below seven in an acid, and anything above it is a base. I don't know about Hydrochloric acid, but I DO know that Sulfuric acid is VERY POWERFUL, and can eat away someone's skin(i'm NOT kidding! If you want to PM me, I can give you a story on that). Sulfuric acid has an acidity of 1.2 ok, so it's ONE TENTH less acid than hydrochloric, but that's still pretty close, which would mean that hydrochlotric acid would eat away at the skin(infact, it would be stronger than sulfuric acid).

now, the way i would see SHC happening is if someone threw up(vomit IS stomach acid) in a large quantity and then, somehow it ignited into the body. or, somehow, the stomach acid would seep through the stomach-like, eat away at it, and then you would combust from the inside out *shivers* it sounds quite nasty.

uh... did I make any sense? please tell me if I did. and, thank you Cruizr, for bringing up an interesting theory. I'll have to talk to my science teacher about it tomorrow........

[Dan L]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Cruizr [/i]
[B]Now, Spontaneous Human Combustion, that I really do think happens. People would be found where they last were, only a few body parts remaining and the rest completely gone...No fire can completely destroy bone. Except for the humans own body. Me? I blame it on stomach acid escaping...It is the only conclusion I can come up with that makes sense to me...
[/B][/QUOTE]

Nah... stomach acid burns, but the burning is due to a chemical reaction, it doesn't actually produce a flame, and even if it did, it wouldn't produce enough of a flame to completely burn through all the person's body and bones.

[quote][i]Posted by Spikey[/i]
I think there might be a such thing as the Locc Noss Monster. But Bif Foot is to far.
[/quote]

Considering that Big Foot is supposed to be human-like, and that human's predecessors apparently died out long after the extinction of the dinosaurs (Which is what the Loch Ness monster is [i]most likely[/i] to be, though not necessaily) I'd say there's a greater possibility that 'Big Feet' (Do you really think there'd be just one?) exist, than the loch ness monster.

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[i]Posted by roxieortatiana[/i]
Well, as Cruizr said, it could have something to do with stomach acid. the acidity level of Stomach acid(hydrochloric acid[yes, i took that from my science notes, hehe...]) is 1.1. something neutral is 7. anything below seven in an acid, and anything above it is a base. I don't know about Hydrochloric acid, but I DO know that Sulfuric acid is VERY POWERFUL, and can eat away someone's skin(i'm NOT kidding! If you want to PM me, I can give you a story on that). Sulfuric acid has an acidity of 1.2 ok, so it's ONE TENTH less acid than hydrochloric, but that's still pretty close, which would mean that hydrochlotric acid would eat away at the skin(infact, it would be stronger than sulfuric acid). [/quote]

OK... Hydrochloric acid has a pH of 1.1... now.. if I remember my chemistry... pH is 14 - log [H+].. meaning that for every decrease of pH by 1, the solution has 10 times as many hydrogen ions.. hydrogen ions are what makes acid acidic. So.. a 0.1 inrease means it'll be roughly doubled. There's no such thing as 'a tenth less acid'.. because acidity is not a measure, it is a property of solutions with a high Hydrogen ion concentration.

Now.... yes... sulfuric acid can melt your skin, but it does not set fire to it. The principle behind SHM is that the human body just sets alight. Acid can't do that. Well, maybe it can, but you'd probably need a pH at or below zero, and some pretty flammable stuff in your body. Secondly... If the acid is that strong when you throw up, why doesn't it burn your mouth? Maybe it's diluted, I'm not sure on that one, but anyway, I don't think acid is what causes it, [i]if[/i] it happens. Because there's a difference between an acid burn and a burn from a flame.

[Carren Heart]

I feel that if you truly believe in something it is REAL or at least to the person how believes in it not everything has to have solid proof ? and for anyone who believes in God or anything like that.. then the paranormal is a pretty believable thing .. I'd imagine