Guest cloricus Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 It has been released that bush was warnd that there was a posibly that "the al Qaeda group might be trying an old fashion plan highjacking". Now I know that even with this info it wouldn't help much. But it means they lied. At the time I found it hard to beleive that america wouldn't of even had a hint that some thing was going to happen becouse of there massive networks all over the world. [[url]www.cnn.com[/url] and abc radio(Australia)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 Ofcourse he was warned... well he wasn't, but the CIA was. Or at least they knew about it. They know about a lot of things, there's just times they can't do anything about it. To take a simi-quote from Men In Black: "There's always some galactic Star Destroyer or whatever whatever trying to whipe out all existence on this planet, and the only reason these people get on with their lives is that they don't know about it"... and simply that, the government doesn't just release a statement going: "Our Sources say that a hijacking may happen anytime between now and then".... that will just cause panic, no one would step on an airplane, and then when it didn't happen, people would question the reliability of our government, The original plan of the al Queda was not to take down the buildings... but to simply crash the plane into the buildings... the buildings falling was simply the cause of poor structural planning on behalf of the people who built it. The fact they did fall however, was more icing on the cake for the al Queda. But yes, I've known, in fact i believe it was said right off, the CIA knew an attack was prominant. But like many things, it's hard to stop when you don't know where, when, or who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cloricus Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Transtic Nerve [/i] [B]Ofcourse he was warned... well he wasn't, but the CIA was. Or at least they knew about it. They know about a lot of things, there's just times they can't do anything about it. The original plan of the al Queda was not to take down the buildings... but to simply crash the plane into the buildings... the buildings falling was simply the cause of poor structural planning on behalf of the people who built it. The fact they did fall however, was more icing on the cake for the al Queda. [/B][/QUOTE] They said at the time they had no idea that it was going to happen. And don't blame the people who built the towers, it was built to sustain a crash from a 737 (with no fuel) not a 747. (With full fuel) The reason it collapsed (or the most prominent theory) is that the fire coursed by the fuel weakened the super structure. And the designer said that if they had tried to make it sustain a crash from a 747 with a full fuel load that they wouldn?t of even tried. With building tech at the moment that is impossible. You should read the report on [url]www.cnn.com[/url] its the main story. I'm just adding this - It's from cnn. It marks the first time the White House has acknowledged there was a warning of a potential hijacking linked to bin Laden prior to the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amphion Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 [quote]The original plan of the al Queda was not to take down the buildings... but to simply crash the plane into the buildings... the buildings falling was simply the cause of poor structural planning on behalf of the people who built it. The fact they did fall however, was more icing on the cake for the al Queda. [/quote] Actually the building was built to withstand the energy of a 747 crashing into it becuase there where accounts of accidents in the past. These where 767's but it was still suppsed to beable to withstand it without toppling over, Main thing was all the fire heated up the support beams and caused floors to collapse, and one by one they fell on each other. If you have a block sitting on multiple collums with several other blocks between the bottom and top you get a very sollid structure. When you take those int between blocks away it cause the structure to loose just about all of its strength. So when the floors collapse under the thousands of degrees of temperature you get a structure that can only support about 1/4 of its weight. Like I said before theres little you could have did to prevent such an accident from happening. At the time it was built it was one of the strongest structures made. On the TLC program anatomy of the collapse it explains all of it. Theres very little you could do about what happend with the technology we have today. Sorry to get all off on that. Im planning on becoming a Civil Engineer. About the Bush thing. I was upset to find out that they lied to us. But in reality they hear alot of stuff we dont. This is just one of the big ones that we where not told about. I just think if we where givin some sort of heads up we could have prevented some of the lives lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Amphion [/i] [B] Actually the building was built to withstand the energy of a 747 crashing into it becuase there where accounts of accidents in the past. These where 767's but it was still suppsed to beable to withstand it without toppling over, Main thing was all the fire heated up the support beams and caused floors to collapse, and one by one they fell on each other. If you have a block sitting on multiple collums with several other blocks between the bottom and top you get a very sollid structure. When you take those int between blocks away it cause the structure to loose just about all of its strength. So when the floors collapse under the thousands of degrees of temperature you get a structure that can only support about 1/4 of its weight. Like I said before theres little you could have did to prevent such an accident from happening. At the time it was built it was one of the strongest structures made. On the TLC program anatomy of the collapse it explains all of it. Theres very little you could do about what happend with the technology we have today. [/B][/QUOTE] Yes yes, I watched that TLC thing... perhaps I worded my post wrong. I said poor structure when really in fact I didn't quite mean that... more... I don't really know the word.... had it been built a different way where the fire wouldn't have weakened the beams, then the towers would still be there.... I suppose is what I'm trying to say... but that kinda goes in account with everything... so just ignore that part of my post if you must.... my intention was to throw out the knocking down of these buildings was not al Queda's intention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 to me, this is about whether or not the white house had the ability to stop the events of sept. 11th. i believe they didnt have the capability of stopping a thing. i also believe that tom dashal is trying to make this in to a white house cover up. anything the white house knew was know by most goverment officials with top secret clearance. democrat and repblican alike. both sides has come out, but it is for some reason being put on the white house, rather than the intelligence community in this country. cia director and fbi director heads should have rolled. by the way, anyone see all those train derailments...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSJ TRUNKS 18 Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 sure he knew. the cia has intelligence all over. they knew long before. they didnt know the planes would be used as missiles. id better not write any more two guys in black suits and glasses just pulled up in a black car and are knocking on my door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenstorture Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 It was said on the news this morning that the CIA was informed in august 2001 that there would be terrorist attacks in early september, but as the information stated the targets would be paris or london, the CIA and in fact the US itself did nothing and said nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cloricus Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 I don't know about that information, but the info I have says that they only knew that al Queda was planing a air hijacking. But like they say on the news tonight there was more that they released. So we shall see how deep the rabbit hole goses, as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Saiyangohan2002 Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by cloricus [/i] [B]I don't know about that information, but the info I have says that they only knew that al Queda was planing a air hijacking. But like they say on the news tonight there was more that they released. So we shall see how deep the rabbit hole goses, as they say. [/B][/QUOTE] hey, lets not get carried away on what George W Bush supposedly knew, or what the CIA breifed him on, and maybe he knew of a supposed threat to the WTC by terrorist jerks such as osama bin laden, but he is a great leader who pulled his country through a very difficult time, he deserves credit for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cloricus Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 Bush did nothing, made a couple of speaches (that he didn't even write) his sercerity board did every thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 i know im not going to change anyones opinion. i also know that all information the president was given, was also given to senate intelligence committies. i also think that for as long as people are blindly following partisan attacks, there will never be a goverment capable of meeting the expectations of those it represents. dont be foolish, the fbi and cia are to blame, not the pres that knew what everyone else did. democrate or republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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