Queen Asuka Posted January 2, 2003 Author Share Posted January 2, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by genkai [/i] [B]er, not cool QA! Hybrid was saying that it was weird when "otaku" didn't even know sometheing as mainstream as YYH and CB, kay? Plus, the reason they were made mainstream was because they were QUALITY ANIME! I was a YYH fan before Adult Swim took it in, and, of course, i was mad, but really, it's quality. Mainstream DOES NOT mean bad! I don't like most mainstream, but CB is one of my faves, so back off!:p don't take that seriously, i'm just mad that you find mainstream and bad are a synonym(is that how you spell it?:)) [/B][/QUOTE] [color=crimson][size=1]Gah, I totally agree with you, Genkai! I read what I had typed in response to that and I was like "Man, that was HARSH...I feel bad for saying that... I must have been pretty pissed off..." So yeah, Hybrid, if you read this post, I'm sorry for being so rash, but yeah. That's my opinion on the matter. And it's cool to see that this topic has lasted for many many months. The sign of a good topic, I'd say. ;)[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu Yu Hakusho! Posted January 2, 2003 Share Posted January 2, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Queen Asuka [/i] [B][color=crimson][size=1]I don't know, it just bothers me a little, but I had to post this. Doesn't it just bother you sometimes how people who watch DBZ think they are just the biggest anime fans and just because they are into DBZ they know so much? Now I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes because I watch the show sometimes too (when I had cable) but I just hate the way that that show dominates America's vision of what anime is...[/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] I totally agree with you. Just because someone like DBZ they think they rule the world of anime or something.....0_o And it's SO true. Every anime is different and unique in it's own way. NOTHING I know of or any other series are like DBZ. It's just all those major DBZ fans out there that tell everyone that because they think that DBZ is the best thing in the whole world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syk3 Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Yu Yu Hakusho! [/i] [B]I totally agree with you. Just because someone like DBZ they think they rule the world of anime or something.....0_o And it's SO true. Every anime is different and unique in it's own way. NOTHING I know of or any other series are like DBZ. It's just all those major DBZ fans out there that tell everyone that because they think that DBZ is the best thing in the whole world. [/B][/QUOTE] Yeah, and that brings me to another point. Some people will do exactly the opposite; they will hate all anime because they think Dragonball completely sums it up. That and Pokemon. It's gone so far that when someone mentions the word "anime," they get a reponse such as "oh, you mean Pokeman and Dragonball Z?" Of course, we know that there are countless other genres and animes other than those, but others are perhaps too stupid to see that. Sorry if that sounds mean, it's just that is pisses me off when people judge all of anime over two shows. Doesn't make sense to me. o_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu Yu Hakusho! Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Syk3 [/i] [B]Yeah, and that brings me to another point. Some people will do exactly the opposite; they will hate all anime because they think Dragonball completely sums it up. That and Pokemon. It's gone so far that when someone mentions the word "anime," they get a reponse such as "oh, you mean Pokeman and Dragonball Z?" Of course, we know that there are countless other genres and animes other than those, but others are perhaps too stupid to see that. Sorry if that sounds mean, it's just that is pisses me off when people judge all of anime over two shows. Doesn't make sense to me. o_O [/B][/QUOTE] EXACTLY. They will hate all anime because they think that DBZ is the best thing that ever happened to them and they don't want to think that anything else is good.....well, there are so many different things I just don't know where to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Musahi Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 [color=darkred]Hey now, simmer down. I happen to like Dragonball/Z/GT a whole lot. One of my favorites in fact. At first I thought this thread was going to bash DBZ and all it's fans. But after reading a bit more carefully, I [b]think[/b] this thread is just bashing people who think they are Otakus when they have only explored DB/Z/GT. Do you hate DB/Z/GT fans even if they know they are not an otaku? Just curious. Anyway, it's true that DB/Z/GT lacks a bit in plot. But that isn't the only thing needed to make a great show. Seinfeld (spelling) had no plot and it was one of the best shows on network television. It has goos animation for it's time. Some slightly deep characters. Plus great action. Story isn't everything. And no likinbg DB/Z/GT doesn't make me a stupid little dubbie. I have explored [b]many[/b] other great anime/manga. So what do all you DBZ fan haters say to that? Note: I am spurring discussion not insulting anyone.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syk3 Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Yu Yu Hakusho! [/i] [B]EXACTLY. They will hate all anime because they think that DBZ is the best thing that ever happened to them and they don't want to think that anything else is good.....well, there are so many different things I just don't know where to start. [/B][/QUOTE] ::sigh:: No, No, let me rephrase that. People will hate all anime [i]including Dragonball Z and Pokemon[/i] because they think those shows are all anime is good for - nothing. They are too thick headed to understand that there are other good genres of animes that they may like. :whoops: [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Cyko [/i] [B][color=darkred]Hey now, simmer down. I happen to like Dragonball/Z/GT a whole lot. One of my favorites in fact. At first I thought this thread was going to bash DBZ and all it's fans. But after reading a bit more carefully, I [b]think[/b] this thread is just bashing people who think they are Otakus when they have only explored DB/Z/GT. Do you hate DB/Z/GT fans even if they know they are not an otaku? Just curious. Anyway, it's true that DB/Z/GT lacks a bit in plot. But that isn't the only thing needed to make a great show. Seinfeld (spelling) had no plot and it was one of the best shows on network television. It has goos animation for it's time. Some slightly deep characters. Plus great action. Story isn't everything. And no likinbg DB/Z/GT doesn't make me a stupid little dubbie. I have explored [b]many[/b] other great anime/manga. So what do all you DBZ fan haters say to that? Note: I am spurring discussion not insulting anyone.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] Hey, I agree. I like DBZ to an extent (I used to be absolutely obessed with it) and this thread is not bashing the show; it's bashing people who will [i]only[/i] watch that anime out of god knows how many are out there, who think that since they watch that one show, they are suddenly otaku's and are gurus of anime. The same would go for someone like that in Yu-Gi-Oh, or Pokemon, or even Sailor Moon. o_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleanor Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 Yeah, some people just hate people who like DBZ just becuase THEY don't like it. It annoyed me sometimes, because I USED to like DBZ, not anymore though. But then they are the people who think they're the masters of anime becuase they "own all the shows and have watched them about three time each" (quoted from my arch enemy at school...god I hate that person, not becuas he likes dbz though)Even I can't call myself an otaku, since I only know eight series and two movies that I truly know and understand. It also annoys me when people claim to be the masters of anime or something, yet they know nothing. I asked someone once to name all the series they knew, and she answered with about all of them, even ones I never heard about, but she didn't even know what most of them were about. She couldn't name any characters, since she only knew about two series well enough to explain. (haha, she looked so flustered). I order National Geographic for Kids(I don't even pay, and it still comes), and they recently had an "anime" section. But I could hardly call it that. The only shows they could come up with Yugioh, Pokemon, Hamtaro, and DBZ. And they also had a tiny box in the corner talking about "Spirited Away". The article ranted on about how japanaese animation was unique because of the 'deep characters' and 'unique plots'. The only examples they gave were Vegeta. Wow. He's SUCH a deep character. Now, I guess you can blame for that criticism for Vegeta, who knows, maybe he is a deep character, I wasn't a BIG fan of dbz when I liked it. Compared to some other anime characters, I wouldn't call him a 'deep character' at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu Yu Hakusho! Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Syk3 [/i] [B]::sigh:: No, No, let me rephrase that. People will hate all anime [i]including Dragonball Z and Pokemon[/i] because they think those shows are all anime is good for - nothing. They are too thick headed to understand that there are other good genres of animes that they may like. :whoops: Hey, I agree. I like DBZ to an extent (I used to be absolutely obessed with it) and this thread is not bashing the show; it's bashing people who will [i]only[/i] watch that anime out of god knows how many are out there, who think that since they watch that one show, they are suddenly otaku's and are gurus of anime. The same would go for someone like that in Yu-Gi-Oh, or Pokemon, or even Sailor Moon. o_O [/B][/QUOTE] No...I was just saying that I agreed with you and then I stated another opinoin....I guess I wasn't clear on that! 0_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Asuka Posted January 3, 2003 Author Share Posted January 3, 2003 [color=crimson][size=1]Well, I did used to watch Dragon Ball Z, when it first start showing on Cartoon Network. And I used to think it was alright. But that show is just SO drawn out and so BORING. There isn't really a good plot and it's repetitive. That's my argument. And I'm sticking to it. If you're a fan, I'm not going to dislike you at all. Just not like your tastes. And that goes with anything really. I like more intellectual, romantic, and comedic anime. DBZ could NEVER give that to me. Hardly any anime shown on TV can. And by the way, it's official. ADV is starting an Anime Network that will be on cable Tv and will show nothing but anime 24 hours a day. Sounds good. Too bad I don't have cable...[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu Yu Hakusho! Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Queen Asuka [/i] [B][color=crimson][size=1]Well, I did used to watch Dragon Ball Z, when it first start showing on Cartoon Network. And I used to think it was alright. But that show is just SO drawn out and so BORING. There isn't really a good plot and it's repetitive. That's my argument. And I'm sticking to it. If you're a fan, I'm not going to dislike you at all. Just not like your tastes. And that goes with anything really. I like more intellectual, romantic, and comedic anime. DBZ could NEVER give that to me. Hardly any anime shown on TV can. And by the way, it's official. ADV is starting an Anime Network that will be on cable Tv and will show nothing but anime 24 hours a day. Sounds good. Too bad I don't have cable...[/color][/size] [/B][/QUOTE] ADV??? Where or what is that? Where is it avaible? And it's so true, DBZ could never offer that kind of thing. And that's why I like Yu Yu Hakusho and Inuyasha so much, because they have the action, the romance, and the comedy. DBZ is just...well, dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Asuka Posted January 3, 2003 Author Share Posted January 3, 2003 [color=crimson][size=1]ADV is a company that puts out anime videos. Like Nadesico and Excel Saga. They have the coolest advertisments. Anyways, I guess they've always done a pretty good job and they are finally deciding to take the leap and do the entire network thing. I don't know if I'm scared or happy. I don't anime to become anymore trendier than it already is...[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genkai Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 And people that USED to like Pokémon are the WORST because they pretend they didn't and say it's stupid, and that all other anime is too. Yaggh. Or they JUST like DBZ, which is what we're talking about. I'm okay with DBZ..subbed unedited, that is. DBZ, the dubbed version on toonami, has 95% of the dialouge changed. Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Asuka Posted January 3, 2003 Author Share Posted January 3, 2003 [color=crimson][size=1]Heh, when I was in middle school, I taped Pokemon every DAY. I have so many episodes of that show on tape that it's not even funny. I guess that's what my kids will be watching. That's another thing about DBZ. Why did they have to change it so much? Even the manga is completely different than the TV series. It just blows my mind, really. The manga is much more mature and I tend to like that better than the actual show.[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu Yu Hakusho! Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 I got into Pokemon only because everyone else was into it. It took me a while to even truly like it. But Dragonball Z came naturally. Then everyone caught on to that after I did. But now that is so over. It's all about the good traditional Anime now, like Yu Yu Hakusho and Inuyasha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genkai Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 Um... YYH sand Inu arent exactly TRADITIONAL, but i'm not sure what you mean by that, so.... anyway... Yeah, the manga is better. the DBmanga and the DB show are really different after the first World martial arts tourney. WAY different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu Yu Hakusho! Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 Well...you know what I mean. I'm basically just saying that I like YYH and Inu better than Poke and DBZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BunnyBunny05 Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 I agree w/you 100% There are much better anime shows out there or @ least a lil' bit better than DBZ. The world doesn't revolve around them! There's Inuyasha, YYH, Trigun, and plenty more!:o :ball: :tasty: :smirk: :babble: :cross: :sleep: :whoops: :therock: :toothy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu Yu Hakusho! Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 Yes, I agree. I wish some people would get over their DBZ fantasies and get out and learn of other Anime. Not everything great is DBZ...I think everyone should try Yu Yu Hakusho espically, Inuyasha for us girls, and Cowboy Bebop for a bit of spunk. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genkai Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 Also, a lor of people like fantasy, but there is almost no fantasy anime dubbed and shjown on network television here, so they all think it's all action.. THANK GOD ADV IS MAKING THE ANIME NETWORK!!! They're gonna slap some fantasy on it.. I think they will do record of lodoss war, is that ADV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu Yu Hakusho! Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 ADV? What is it? I must know! Is it avaible in the US? I have sattelite so I should be able to get it but.... I need to know! Someone please tell me....0_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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