Martial Arts

[Deedlit]

I have a friend who has a cousin who took this wierd type of martial arts. It included some juditsu (no, not the watered-down judo. the ACTUAL juditsu), Kong fu, karate, Tae Kwan Do, and a bunch of other forms rolled into one. I forget the name, but I think it starts with an "s". Anyway, it's supposed to be really good. My friend could [u]always[/u] beat up her cousin (play fighting of course), but ever since her cousin started taking the martial art course thing, my friend is getting her butt kicked by her. I really want to find out what it's called.

[Sui Generis]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Elite DBZ [/i]
[B][B]There are over 5,000 registered styles of Karate in the world, but there is always a thing to remember: Karate means "art of the open hand" or soemthing along those lines. The idea is there are no weapons, so anyone going to a Karate class with weapons isn't going to a Karate class... I have seen this in the past.

What really annoys me are "movie martial artists." These are people who see the Bruce Lee movies, copy the moves and count themselves as true, disciplined martial artists. Anyone met someone who has this attitude?[/B] [/B][/QUOTE]


Oh well they called it Karate...I wonder what the real style was then...

[Delian]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Cibo [/i]
[B]I want to take some kind of Martial Arts, but I only see one problem with me taking it. I'm not flexible at all...would that be much of a factor? [/B][/QUOTE]

It's actually not that hard to increase you flexibility. Stretching alone, say for half an hour each day can increase your flexibility. Martial arts can help you to become very flexible. Otherwise you could always try yoga.

[Kent]

im 5' 10" 210 lbs. lets just say i dont look limber.
but i stretched everyday when i was watching dbz and now i can always put my palms flat on the ground with my knees locked.
i would also like to say there are really tons of different styles to learn. each one can favor a certain type of person.
like judo is good for people with bad joints or children because it doesnt use grapples like other forms such as ju jitsu.
like wise, tae kwan do favors those that are limber and able to kick more easily compared to akido, which favors heavier people that can put a little weight into a throw or something.
look around and take you time, if you live in america its hard to get the real thing. learn what you can about the facts, then go find a teacher for the style that fits you.
if you just want self defense for idiots, there are picture books by people exploiting bruce lee that show mr. lee doing all kinds of defensive situations.
their little paper backs called bruce lees fighting method.
there are a couple of subjects and each are very simple and applicable. just hope you never have to use it.

[PiroMunkie]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by gokents [/i]
[B]like judo is good for people with bad joints or children because it doesnt use grapples like other forms such as ju jitsu.[/B][/QUOTE][color=indigo]Ok, now I [i]know[/i] that is not true. Every move in Judo is done out of a grapple. I distinctly remember our teacher using that word everytime he talked about us starting the move. I never knew what it meant cause I was so young, so it bothered me, that is why I remember. I do not quite remember the exact position the grapple was in.. It was something like.. Grab the persons shirt in the middle of their chest with one hand, and grab their shoulder with the other. Every technique we learned was done from that position. With the exception of pins, of course.[/color]

[wrist cutter]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Elite DBZ [/i]
[B]Karate means "art of the open hand" or soemthing along those lines. [/B][/QUOTE]

karate = ?ó?è

The first kanji means "empty" (well... could mean air too, I guess) and the second means "hand" (or an occupational suffix, but it just isn't). So, first of all, it really has no "art" anywhere in it, and second of all, open hand gives off a slightly different feeling than empty hand does, I think. But it is a foreign language, so I guess it's a bit open to argument.

Just trying to help.

[Rancid]

[SIZE=1]I take "Muay Tai" (I hope you people have heard of it). If you have played Street Fighter or KOF, then you should know that Sagat and Adon study Muay Tai. I wanna get in to a more competitive Muay Tai program next year.[/SIZE]

[Corey]

[B][SIZE=3][FONT=century gothic][COLOR=darkblue]I took a class from one of my friends.
I think it was an off-shoot from Drunken Boxing.
He probably made half of it up.
Does that count?[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/B]

[Kent]

piro, what i said isnt wrong nessicarily.
i know what your saying about judo, but if you look into it youll find out that the grapples in judo are better for those with weak joints and little self control because you do grapples that are based around throwing the other person with their wieght.
where as ju jitsu is based around taking, lets say an arm, and bending it in the wrong direction.
now do you think that i little kid is gonna be as good about not over doing that move and stopping when he should.
compared to judo where you end up on the ground, tumbled and tired, but not with an inverted elbow.
read some more and youll find im right.

[PiroMunkie]

[color=indigo]gokents:
Ok, I see what you mean. It was kind of a mistake on both our parts. I was unaware of how Ju Jitsu is performed, and you semi-left out that Judo [i]does[/i] use grapples, their just not as violent. I understand now. :) I will have to look into them more ;)[/color]

[Kent]

its actually very interesting.
ive heard a quote. since i dont know it perfectly it will be a general comment.
fighting _____ is like fighting an empty jacket.
the "_____" is supposed to be the name of the man that invented judo. i dont know his name. but the qoute represents the true essence of judo. maximum effiecentcy for minimal effort.
for every aggresive manuver there is a complete reverse.
it actually plays into the laws of phyisics, for ever action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
this is also a common concept in martial arts. the yin and the yang.

[PiroMunkie]

[color=indigo]Coolems :p. That is a very interesting quote and idea. And I know from experience what they mean by 'Maximum efficiency for minimal effort'. That is what I liked most about Judo. Is that it did not take much energy to throw the person around, but it did the job well. Our teacher also made good examples of how their is a complete reverse for everything. He would always have his "guinea pig" try to do something to him, and in the blink of an eye, the other guy was on the ground :p. It was great.[/color]

[Red]

[B]I have seen styles where a person uses the force that is used against them and throws it straight back at their opponent, with barely any effort made on their part, just the right arm/leg movements and the counter is executed. However, it doesn't [i]always[/i] work.

I personally like Jeet Kune Do, the style with no forms, fantastic.[/B]

[Rancid]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Elite DBZ [/i]
[B][B]I have seen styles where a person uses the force that is used against them and throws it straight back at their opponent, with barely any effort made on their part, just the right arm/leg movements and the counter is executed. However, it doesn't [i]always[/i] work.

I personally like Jeet Kune Do, the style with no forms, fantastic.[/B] [/B][/QUOTE]

[SIZE=1]It's called Akido, it's pretty cool actually, you get a sword......*drewl*......sword.[/SIZE]

[Kent]

yes to most of the above.
its odd, i dont know the literal meaning of akido, but i do know that jeet kun do is a "style" bruce lee came up with based on the idea of having no "style"
its very possible that akido may literally translate to no form or something... i dont know any languages besides english.
also, kendo is the art of the sword. i dont know the literal translation.
but i know its the martial art that is what a samurai would have practiced. there are 8 specific spots to hit as targets and 3 stances. its considered by some to be one of the hardest to master.

[The Harlequin]

[font=gothic]Kendo is more of a sport than a true martial art though.[/font]

[conpiracymonki]

[b]I used to take Ju Jitsu when I was 7, but that was only for about 1 1/2 months or so, and it was really petty.
And last year, I was going to start on Muay Thai at my uncle's friend's teacher's gym.
But now I take a mixed form of Kung-Fu, that's basically the Chinese Boxing geared with some Wushu.

This place is real good, and I hope I stay ^_^[/b]

[Kent]

these days kendo is very much just a sport.
but, at on a new point of view, it could have been something you spent every day doing all within another code that binds you to another mans war; you'd want to be the best in that game.
if your intrest be sport or possible defense its still a very good "style" to know.
of course it is kinda based around a sword or even stick, so its not one that i would suggest for the "newbie" to just try and pick up on.
i am a newbie. i by no means know any of the above.
only my own little world of appreciation for the martial arts.
side note: tae kwon do is now just about what i would call a tournament style fighting form; room for improvanization (sp?) still exist though.

[The One]

[B] I kinda teach myself from books and stuff, but nothing can substitute a real teacher and lessons, I'd really like to do Tai Chi, Kung Fu, Ai Ki Do etc etc, I really enjoy training when I do, and sparring, but I haven't that much time...:( [/B]

[Rancid]

[SIZE=1]I saw a show on Ai Ki Do, I forgot what it means though and the style, I'm so stupid. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=1]Would you mind explaining The One?[/SIZE]

[conpiracymonki]

[b]Aikido looks like lots of locks and twists and momentum, and motion and stuff.
And it looks AWESOME!!
It's the simplest form of martial arts supposedly, but it looks real hard to me, and Steven Segal does it.

(Simplest meaning no hitting back really even necessary)

[/b]

Damn open tags -_-

[Alexander]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Wing Gundam [/i]
[B]

[SIZE=1]It's called Akido, it's pretty cool actually, you get a sword......*drewl*......sword.[/SIZE] [/B][/QUOTE]

YES! YES! Yes! At long last I find someone else who practices the art of Aikido (Harmony, Energy, and The Way, respectively, for 'The Way of Harmonized Energy')

Aikido is very different from most other arts, at least that's what it seems to me. Lots of emphasis on circular motion, using your opponent's energy to defeat himself, and other harder-to-master, but potentially powerful moves. Lots of throws and *ahem* rolling.

I garauntee, Aikido is NOT the simplest form of martial arts. The general mindset of the art is much different from others, and simple things like punches, kicks, and blocks are almost completely absent from the style. Sparring I think is also out, though Black Belts have to go through Randori (Seizing Chaos/Multiple Man Attack) training. (Though I imagine most other arts would have that, too.)

And yes, eventually you are required to learn a few basic Bokken(Wooden Sword, shaped like a Katana) and Jo (Staff) Katas to advance in ranking.

[ZeroBlade]

Whoa, Martial Arts that let you use swords..... God I wish I knew about this when I was younger....(I'm 18 now) If I had the choice of picking a weapon.... I'll pick a sword. Yeah, I know we have guns and such today but you shoot somebody and thats it.... Where's the fun in that? (Not like I would actually do it) And I always thought of what would be the most powerful sword in the world...... I think a sword made of Diamond with a Lazer edge would be god like....... *drools*

Also, its funny how I never took a class and yet when I get into minor fights, its almost natural for me to grab people and throw them around by grabing the punch and kicks they throw and my friends wonder if I took a class at all.. Heck, I have a stance and even sometimes can block attacks when I'm not looking at them! Chalk it up for the most commonly known martial arts....... TV

[Juu]

yep. Tae kwon do.... me and my friends are all about martial arts. lol ^_^'

[The Harlequin]

Most martial arts involve weapons training at a higher level, although most of it is merely quarterstaff, and sword training. A few use nunchukas, but people tend to injure themselves more with them. When I did karate, about half of what we did was quarterstaff fighting, with a bit of Japanese style fencing thrown in. What's better than using weapons though, is learning to use martial arts and weapons in conjunction.