ISS - Freedom

[The Harlequin]

[font=gothic][color=crimson]I gave him those theories, but did you inquite where I got them from? No, you decided to disprove them. I never said I could disprove or prove whether you the universe was infinte, I was presenting a theory. Remember my comments on logic? As soon as the word infinity was mentioned, logic goes out the window. And infinity is referring to limitless more than never ending. The word ending implies that it started. When it comes to infinity, it's not something that started and will not end, it's something that is, will be, and is not bound by limits of any kind.

Point 2. Again, offering a theory. Do not try and disprove me on a theoretical basis.

Point 3. Does it matter when it repeats itself, only that it does. If it does not repeat itself, it merely ends, then it does not matter, because the whole idea goes out the window.

Point 4. These dimension would be having the same effects now that they would be at any other time, so any extrapolations made on current data would be applicable to the current theory.

Point 5. The idea of infinity makes everything speculation, as you've pointed out. However, in a realm where everything is speculation, speculate. Of course I can't prove that it is infinite, I know that as well as you do. But I can give the most likely series of events, as the best proof we've got.


Point 6. We're not even talking about numbers here, we're talking about a concept. If infinity were a number, it wouldn't really be infinite. It merely is. And we can deal with the concept, although we can't visualise it.

Now, I probably don't understand all this all well as you do, but again, I ask, did you bother to check my source? Achilles in The Quantam Universe, A Definitive History Of Infinity. A book written on the subject of infinity, when applied to the universe. Written by someone who has been researching the topic their entire lives. Most of that was theory, but it was scientifically backed-up theory.[/font][/color]

[Jesus Chicken]

Well back to the topic, should we use money to further our proposed space station? My answer is No, no we should not. I go with we just use good old fashioned slave labour!

[Guest cloricus]

Lol. For every one whom whishes to know, "Achilles in The Quantum Universe, A Definitive History Of Infinity" is a book for novice readers in to this field, which is about the level Harlequin or I would understand it at.
It is a 365 page book (with pictures) that Harlequin read during manual arts in the last few weeks at school.

He is only 14 and is in year 10; I believe that his knowledge in to this field is extremely limited. Also to counter any come backs that he may have my knowledge in this field is only on the subjects I have read in to.

"I don't know every thing, and either do you, Harlequin"

[Guest cloricus]

Jesus Chicken, although I like you're logic; if we used slaves we would have even more money, so then we could still do the space station any way! -Or is that what you meant?

-UP AND DOWN WITH VELCRO

[Jesus Chicken]

By the way, Im posting for Harlequin to save some time...

[font=gothic][colour=crimson]
Now, the book was longer than that, over 500 pages, I believe, had no pictures and was written for university level. Also the fact that I am smarter than you and still younger is entirely irrelevant.

[Guest cloricus]

HAHA... I've already double posted so I may as well spam.
You really do know him! lol.
Nice banner btw.

[Jesus Chicken]

In correlation with you post before, I was suggesting that we could use money for anything but space programs. I don't care what, howsabout, we create giant chickens, that could be interesting.

[Guest cloricus]

It could fall over and kill all the slaves, and we don't want that....
Or it could fly off and then you'd want the space station to go and catch it, wouldn't you.... WOULDN'T YOU.... MAUAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHA... or is that MUAH?

[Jesus Chicken]

YOu don't know that I wouldn't want that, now do you?
Sorry for spamming this thread up, but I would like to know what everyone thinks about my inhumane suggestion of slave labour.

[eleanor]

I think it's a stupid idea. If we can't have peace within our own planet and still have poor and homelees people wandering about, whats the use of going to another planet?

[Guest cloricus]

[Color=teal][I]Make the planet a stable and safe place to live - Billions upon trillions of dollars.

Feeding starving children in Africa - $19.6 billion

Making every one in the world slaves - $6 trillion

Watching all the rich people build space stations and fly of in to deep space to find a better world and leave us all to die - Priceless.[/I][/Color]

[Dan L]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by The Harlequin [/i]
[B][font=gothic][color=crimson]I gave him those theories, but did you inquite where I got them from? No, you decided to disprove them. I never said I could disprove or prove whether you the universe was infinte, I was presenting a theory. Remember my comments on logic? As soon as the word infinity was mentioned, logic goes out the window. And infinity is referring to limitless more than never ending. The word ending implies that it started. When it comes to infinity, it's not something that started and will not end, it's something that is, will be, and is not bound by limits of any kind.

Point 2. Again, offering a theory. Do not try and disprove me on a theoretical basis.

Point 3. Does it matter when it repeats itself, only that it does. If it does not repeat itself, it merely ends, then it does not matter, because the whole idea goes out the window.

Point 4. These dimension would be having the same effects now that they would be at any other time, so any extrapolations made on current data would be applicable to the current theory.

Point 5. The idea of infinity makes everything speculation, as you've pointed out. However, in a realm where everything is speculation, speculate. Of course I can't prove that it is infinite, I know that as well as you do. But I can give the most likely series of events, as the best proof we've got.


Point 6. We're not even talking about numbers here, we're talking about a concept. If infinity were a number, it wouldn't really be infinite. It merely is. And we can deal with the concept, although we can't visualise it.

Now, I probably don't understand all this all well as you do, but again, I ask, did you bother to check my source? Achilles in The Quantam Universe, A Definitive History Of Infinity. A book written on the subject of infinity, when applied to the universe. Written by someone who has been researching the topic their entire lives. Most of that was theory, but it was scientifically backed-up theory.[/font][/color] [/B][/QUOTE]

Fair enough.

My response to point 1: At one point you said 'Simple Cloricus. It has to be. A finite universe means finite possibilities'.. i took that to mean 'This [i]is[/i] right and here's the proof'. Sorry if I misinterpreted that.

My response to all other points: Given that I now understand that you were talking about a theory (as in- you didn't think that it was proof of what you thought), I agree with the other points. I think the overall point you're trying to make is- don't try to disprove my theory with your theory. I agree. My theories (or rather, someone else's theories which I happen to believe) give a look at the other side of the argument, essentially, your theory can't be right without mine being wrong, unless they make a bigger theory which involves the two. And since mine haven't been disproven, I was really trying to say ''Look, you can't prove that, because of this'' But now I realise you weren't trying to prove it, but offer a theory. So I apologise for the apparent arrogance of my post.

One last point: You're only 14, but you're pretty smart for a 14 year old. Keep at it ;)