Delian Posted June 15, 2002 Share Posted June 15, 2002 I do volunteer work raising donations for the Kids Helpline in Australia. I must say that this is a wonderful organisation, which helps over 10000 Australian kids each week nation-wide, some of who are suicidal. This organisation has helped save thousands of lives. I was just curious to know what people think of these kind of organisations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Meike Posted June 15, 2002 Share Posted June 15, 2002 I think these oganisations are just wonderfull, it's really good for those kids that can be helped. If I can give money for stuffs like that, I do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duo Maxwell Posted June 15, 2002 Share Posted June 15, 2002 I love those help lines... they really help, even though I don't call them I know they are really important to some people. I remember I called the kids help line once... I can't remember what exactly for though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alley Catt Posted June 15, 2002 Share Posted June 15, 2002 I think those type of organisations are great. Sometimes all it takes to save a life is to have someone there to listen. I also believe that the people who work for these organisations are some of the greatest people in existance. They listen to the torment of children and can still live their lives and help their own families. Good luck with raising the money. They need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenstorture Posted June 15, 2002 Share Posted June 15, 2002 [color=darkgreen][font=gothic]I have called kid's helpline, lifeline etc quite a number of times over the years but I gave up after a while. People kept telling me I would feel much better with myself and I would not be so depressed and suicidal if I got out more, if I worked harder, perhaps I should get a job, start going to school...? Perhaps tafe, or something? This is not really the kind of thing I would like to hear when I am trying very hard not to slash my neck open. So I gave up. And I am sure that not all calls are responded to in this way, "Hello, please help me, I want to cut myself because I am so depressed and I don't know why, ok, well, we can start by putting the knife down, ok? What's your name? Ok, well, have you ever considered GOING FOR A [I]WALK???[/i] I don't know, it's jsutthat they never helped much.... have you ever heard of anyhting like that, Delian? Apparently a few friends of mine got that treatment as well, i was wondering if anyone knew anything...[/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fall Posted June 15, 2002 Share Posted June 15, 2002 One problem is that the unfortunate kids who are suicidal, don't have the courage to call Kids Helpline. My cousin was having troubles at school, but didn't have the courage to call the service. Yes, the organistion has helped save thousands of lives, which by all means is one the best things an organistion could do. And I tell you, if I could get a "volunteer" job, I'd probably like to give it a go. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duo Maxwell Posted June 15, 2002 Share Posted June 15, 2002 One thing I hat though is the fact you usually get put on hold cause of people who do prankies *puts phone down* Its sad how people have no respect for things like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alley Catt Posted June 15, 2002 Share Posted June 15, 2002 In regard to what raven was talking about, lifeline and kidsd helpline may not be able to help everyone. But with the few people they have and limited resources, i still say they are doing a pretty good job. And yes, those who make prank phone calls are worthless pieces of ****.:flaming: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Posted June 15, 2002 Share Posted June 15, 2002 [B] I think helplines and these organisations are a good idea but they don't always work like they are supposed to. I haven't called any, I dealt with my depression in my own way, and for some reason I am ecstatically happy most of the time, and I do work harder and think more about my actions instead of pummeling some dude 'cos he spoke to me. hmmm. But for some I suppose these things are helpful. Keep up the good work Del. :)[/B] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane11 Posted June 15, 2002 Share Posted June 15, 2002 That sounds really cool. They should have one of those everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cloricus Posted June 15, 2002 Share Posted June 15, 2002 I "had" a friend who tried calling there a few times and they could not help him. These call places are set up to help the average run of the mill depression, they are not designed to help people who are smart or really need help or are different. All of their responses are preset, from what I gather, you might do better listening to a tape recording. So from what I have heard about it, I have never bothered, plus the fact that I don?t know if the number comes up on the phone bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenstorture Posted June 15, 2002 Share Posted June 15, 2002 [color=darkgreen][font=gothic]I was around ata friend's place one day, and she decided to make a prank phone call, it was pretty late at night, you know. I was pretty indifferent, I really couldn't have cared less, but when she called a helpline and pretended she was going to kill herslef I got really upst, i thought she was making fun of me, and I ripped the phone out of the wall. Another problem I had with helplines is that as time progressed, they believe you less and less. That's sad, they shouldn't have to believe you, they should just be there to listen, because that really helps. They usually aren't there to make suggestions. But it's people who make prank phone calls who steal time from those who need it. [/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Harlequin Posted June 15, 2002 Share Posted June 15, 2002 [font=gothic][color=crimson]Personally, I believe they do more harm than good. After receiving days or phone calls from depressed kids, then weeks of it, maybe even years, you'd go a little numb. Then what. Some kid rings up, saying he's going to kill himself because his life is so bad. The person on the other end replies in a bored tone of voice "Yeah, what's the problem this time?", and doesn't even make the pretense of caring. That kid is going to kill himself. If they want such a thing to work, put some trained people there, or use Raven's idea of having them just shut up. Of course, if we just wanted to be heard, we could always just talk to a wall.[/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cloricus Posted June 15, 2002 Share Posted June 15, 2002 Harlequin, that is exactly what happens. People just one day say, screw this and the next kid who phones up gets **** from them. I saw it happen to a friend of mine, she went mad. (This was in a chat room version of a help line.) She helped cause 6 suicides that we know of and the after affects are still there. No one trusts the room any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delian Posted June 16, 2002 Author Share Posted June 16, 2002 Well, i know that the Kids Help line in Australia has saved quite a few lives. They are trained consultants and some of who are psychologists. I've heard from quite a few of you that they don't really help much. Are you talking about the one in Australia or a similar lifeline elsewhere? Anyways, there was one incident of a girl who call the kids helpline and let them know that she had overdosed and wanted to talk to someone while she dies. Well, the consultant asked if she wanted to say goodbye to anyone, and the helpline will call them. The girl wanted to say goodbye to her boyfriend. So they called her boyfriend and got the girl's address, sent an ambulance over and they saved her life. They've also helped keep kids from committing suicide (And not by telling them to go for a walk, either!!!) Ravenstorture, I think you and your friends must have been talking to a few who should be fired, if that's the kind of treament you got!!! Actually I will have to bring that point up with them. Sadly they do have prank calls , but some kids who have genuine problems, prank call to see if the consultants are actually interested in what they have to say. That's why it is policy with the Kids Helpline that the consultants never put the phone down unless the person hangs up. Basically the organisation does help thousands of kids, but it does need funding. That's why volunteering is so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilac oranges Posted June 16, 2002 Share Posted June 16, 2002 i think kids help line and those sort of things are great, but to many ppl. are afraid to phone incase it shows on a phone bill, or they just don't know the number but i think they help alot of ppl. who need it, even if they can't help everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fall Posted June 16, 2002 Share Posted June 16, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Lilac oranges [/i] [B]i think kids help line and those sort of things are great, but to many ppl. are afraid to phone incase it shows on a phone bill, or they just don't know the number but i think they help alot of ppl. who need it, even if they can't help everyone. [/B][/QUOTE]They show the ads on T.V. nearly all the time here, that shows the number. And I think it's in the phonebook....but I know what you mean by it showing on the phonebill. They're probably scared that their parents will see it, and want to talk to them about it, when the kid doesn't want to. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delian Posted June 16, 2002 Author Share Posted June 16, 2002 A lot of kids and young adults, some who are even around the age of 20 use the Kids Helpline. The callers who live at home, shouldn't be afraid to use the Kids Helpline. Even if it does show up on the bill, if they don't wish to talk about it with their family then it's a choice that they should be allowed to have and people will have to accept even if they don't want to. I know, it is much easier said than done. However, kids who have problems should talk it over with their parents...even if their parents are the problem. Communication does help make things better if people are open minded and are genuinely wanting their problems to be solved. This is just my opinion on this. Considering all callers are anonomous (sp?), untill they reveal themselves, communication and counselling is all the help that the Kids Helpline is able to provide, unless serious circumstances warrant the Helpline to intervene in that person's life. Example of this is the one I gave in my earlier post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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