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[color=indigo] Wow, the Isrealis control the world media and the media in the US...all this time I thought that media was controlled by various independant or government orginizations. Wow, Isreal must have a very complicated agenda, spinning news in every single perspective...I guess they are trying to throw us all into a state of utter confusion before they take over the world...(please note the sarcasm in that paragraph)

Parabola, it is hysterical that you can call Americans "Damn ignorant people", especially since you have yet to prove that you have the even faintest trace of intelligence. America may have its fair share of dolts, but we are still lacking a few...considering that you reside in England.[/color]
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Erm, parabola.. Did you just call americans 'Damn ignorant people?'

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*sigh people these days*

Parabola, please put at least a little bit of thought into your posts. Some of them have been extremely pathetic and thoughtless.
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People don't like America because we can't please everybody. When we do stuff to help other contries we get yelled at when we don't do anything we get yelled at. There are so many people in the world we cannot choose one action that will please each and every person on this planet. That's why everyone thinks America is a bad country.

And saying that bush planned the 9/11 attacks is like saying the holocaoust wasn't real. But if we find that Bush did plan them then you may kick me in the balls.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Parabola- [/i]
[B]It's funny how you never hear about terrorism from both sides.
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I used to. Hell, I still do. Perhaps you should read other topics.

[quote][b]
Damn, if I came on here and said, "Hi, I'm from Saudi Arabia."
I wonder how hostile people would treate me then...:worried: [/B][/QUOTE]

I dunno, why don't you ask Seph. He's an Iraqian
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Parabola- [/i]
[B]You know what they say about Americans. Damn ignorant people. [/B][/QUOTE]


That right there proves my theory that you're just an uneducated idiot who thinks America is nothing but a bunch of hillbillies or some ****. Put some damn thought in your posts. I'm positive that there are a good million people that're smarter than you in this STATE alone.
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I don't think it's all that bad. The problem is the way that the othre countries responded to it. And we are least likely to bomb other countries. As far as I can tell we aren't going to kill anyone just to do it. At least not on a mass scale. But I do agree that he shouldn't have said that.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SuperSayian [/i]
[B]


That right there proves my theory that you're just an uneducated idiot who thinks America is nothing but a bunch of hillbillies or some ****. Put some damn thought in your posts. I'm positive that there are a good million people that're smarter than you in this STATE alone. [/B][/QUOTE]

Your posts are just as intelligent as George Bush's speches. What's wrong? Does the truth hurt? Have I hit a nerve?
Where did I state that I hate Americans?

I'm just stating by opinions. If I said something that every American agreed on, on here, they'll praise me for it. if I say something they totally disagree on, they'll call me an "idiot".

Transtic Nerve, I was referring to the media, which is mostly owned by Jews, who hate Arabs and Muslims,
who also say negative stuff about them. That's why when it comes to terrorism in the news, you only hear it from ONE side.

And "Iraqian"? You mean Iranian or Iraqi?
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Parabola- [/i]
[B] If I said something that every American agreed on, on here, they'll praise me for it. if I say something they totally disagree on, they'll call me an "idiot". [/B][/QUOTE]

[color=deeppink]Bare in mind that a majority of the members at this particular forum are American. Of [i]course[/i] people are going to get mad when you insult their country...it's a knee-jerk reaction. I could go around saying that all of the British are a bunch of (excuse the example) 'wankers', but I wouldn't because that would be making a ridiculous generalization. By calling all of us Americans ignorant, you're making yourself sound ill-informed.

Also, TN meant Iraqi when speaking about Seph.[/color]
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You say we get mad, look who the person is that went on a cussing spree and asked to banned from 'this ****ing msg board.'

And you STILL haven't offered ANY evidence to support your theories. The ONLY reason I leave this topic open is to give you a chance to do so.

-Justin
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[b]Ok, my bad, I should of said, "Some ignorant American people". It's not only that, that they're mad about, it's because I have different opinions.
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No one is angry with you because you have different opinions. Is anyone is, he's a fool for it. But you, sir, are also a fool--for presenting your views in such as way as to make that majority of this board upset with you. And backing up your statements with nothing but more angry words and attempts to victimize yourself.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Parabola- [/i]
[B]

Your posts are just as intelligent as George Bush's speches. What's wrong? Does the truth hurt? Have I hit a nerve?
Where did I state that I hate Americans?
[/B][/QUOTE]


:laugh: I'm sorry, but I find that very funny. You want the truth? All right, here's the truth.

You are opinionated, as I am. You, however, sit in the stands of the field, screaming insults to the players, when you've never seen the sport before. I, and the other Americans on this board, are the players, who dismiss your ridiculous comments, because you don't know what you're talking about.

Now, for your "opinions".

You called me a "damn ignorant person", when I have shown that I have semi-planned-out posts. You, on the other hand, decide to post whatever wanders into your *ahem* seemingly inactive brain.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Parabola- [/i]
[B]

Transtic Nerve, I was referring to the media, which is mostly owned by Jews, who hate Arabs and Muslims,
who also say negative stuff about them. That's why when it comes to terrorism in the news, you only hear it from ONE side.

[/B][/QUOTE]

[color=royalblue]While I do agree that 90% of American media is heavily biased in favour of Israel (which [i]does[/i] misrepresent the reality of the situation), I'm very reluctant to say something like "Jews hate Arabs and Muslims". It's something nobody can lay claim to.

Just as you should never have said that all Americans are ignorant (because I know many very intelligent and "worldly" American people whom I admire greatly), you should also not assume that all Jews hate Arabs and Muslims.

If we're going to have a serious debate about terrorism (from all sides), then let us try and lower the personal, emotional rhetoric here. Let's try and understand that others have feelings and that there are differing points of view. Let's also try and understand that we can't make generalizations that are unfair, without having any real data to support it.[/color]
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I definately don't think americans are ignorant. Americans have a special warmth and kindness to them that I don't find as much in other countries. As for you, I have no idea how you actually manged to say that in front of a site with a majority of american people!!
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I think Bush is doing a good job. I mean--at least an ok job, good enough to get by. I know that Bush isn't and will never be our best president (I think JFK was). Anyways, look at the stock market--companys are rapidly going into bankrupcy and laying off jobs, the stock market is falling like crazy, and Bush is more worried about picking fights with the 'Axis of Evil'. Before doing that he could at least give the economy a boost. Now I think these nations are bad (especially Iraq), but why fight when it won't change ANYTHING. Why have another sad, cold, war just for nothing. Because it's a common fact that there will always be someone bad, someone who wants to rule over everyone, and it will never end. I mean all of us are corrupted in someway or another--greed, hate...these are but a few. Bush is doing some of the right things, as long as this doesn't start another war, that's all I am wishing for. Because wars are just stupid....please not another war...
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by AnimeLover [/i]
[B] but why fight when it won't change ANYTHING. Why have another sad, cold, war just for nothing. [/B][/QUOTE]

[color=royalblue]As horrible as war can be, it is sometimes necessary.

If the Allies don't remove Saddam Hussein from power, who will? You?

Someone's got to do it.

If Saddam one day launched a biological (or nuclear) attack on the United States or someone else, I'm sure we'd [i]all[/i] be saying "Why didn't we fix the problem before it got this far?".[/color]
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I agree with James on this. Even if George Bush said SOME things he shouldn't have, these are things we need too get done with. I know fighting isn't the best way, but it may have come down to that, if nobody listens. Now, if we were just too send bombs on a counrty with no reason, that's wrong. But, he knows, I know, and alot of other people know that you can't trust almost NOBODY. Even Germany could attack America, even if we are considered allies
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Saiya-jinro [/i]
[B] Even Germany could attack America, even if we are considered allies [/B][/QUOTE]

[color=royalblue]Erm, let's try and keep [i]some[/i] semblance of sanity here...[/color]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Saiya-jinro [/i]
[B]I am sane, I'm just saying that even if two countries are friends, something could happn where they start fighting again. [/B][/QUOTE]

[color=royalblue]Of course anything could happen...but I could use that argument to say that aliens could land on Earth tomorrow so I'd better prepare.

My point is, you can always argue that [i]anything[/i] can happen. But at some point, you have to be reasonable when you make those suggestions.

It would take an incredibly massive incident to provoke Germany into declaring war on the United States. lol[/color]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by AnimeLover [/i]
I think Bush is doing a good job. I mean--at least an ok job, good enough to get by. I know that Bush isn't and will never be our best president (I think JFK was).[/quote]

[color=indigo] JFK hmm...why? What did JFK do to make himself te greatest president? People claim that John was the best president, but what exactly did he do that puts him on par with Washington, Lincoln, or FDR? His potential as a leader was never realized.[/color]

[quote]Anyways, look at the stock market--companys are rapidly going into bankrupcy and laying off jobs, the stock market is falling like crazy, and Bush is more worried about picking fights with the 'Axis of Evil'. Before doing that he could at least give the economy a boost. [/quote]

[color=indigo]I doubt that Bush is more concerned with picking fights then trying to fix the economy. Bush is a pretty intelligent guy, and I am pretty sure that he knows that having a healthy economy is the best way to guarantee reelection. There is only so much that a president can do to effect the economy.[/color]

[quote] Now I think these nations are bad (especially Iraq), but why fight when it won't change ANYTHING. Why have another sad, cold, war just for nothing. Because it's a common fact that there will always be someone bad, someone who wants to rule over everyone, and it will never end. I mean all of us are corrupted in someway or another--greed, hate...these are but a few. [/QUOTE]

[color=indigo]Yes, but not all of us are fanatical, sadistic megalomaniacs. I think that different countries need different governmental systems...democracy doesn't work for everyone, but no government should be ruled through terror. If Saddam Hussien is removed, it may not solve Iraq's leadership problem, but it could. I think it is a chance that the UN should take (although they better not do it half-@$$ed).[/color]
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Wait a sec, if democratcy doesn't work what will?

Another thing, you can't please everyone. If not democratcy, the only choise we have is communism. Is it not?

Things are getting out of hand, the usa is getting into war, several countries are getting mad at america, stocks are falling fast, and wa~y too many 'what used to be good' businesses have been scandles. Our situation is getting worse by the minute, and I wouldn't exactly call what bush is doing, ver much 'help'.
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