Delian Posted July 2, 2002 Share Posted July 2, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sere Tuscumbia [/i] [B]Whoo, Delian, get a CLUE! It WOULD matter who kissed who, because if you're friend is innocent, you can't go getting all hot and bothered at him when he didn't do anything! If he DID kiss HER then . . . a sledgehammer and his head should be very good pals. ~!*Sere & Co.*!~ [/B][/QUOTE] Well get this...It takes TWO to tango. His girl cheated on him with his best friend...That's the bottom line...They're both at fault, regardless, yes...regardless of who initiated the kiss. As for the second time. That's just adding more insult to the situation. In the heat of the moment does NOT justify or excuse the fact that they both are to blame. O.K sure, you might forgive either or both of them, but please don't tell me you can still trust them or be loyal to them when obviously they're not loyal to you. That's my view anyway. I just don't tolerate cheating. Maybe it's just a difference in our age gap or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted July 2, 2002 Share Posted July 2, 2002 either try and deal with it by just letting it go. or forget both and start over. of course you could go with some of the reasonable approaches other people have mentioned. but whats fun about reasonable. just kidding. ive had the same pain. and i hope you can manage it. real advice i have for you is a little saddening. unfortunatly there is nothing you can do. if their hearts found each other and her heart is only seeing him, there is little you can do besides stand aside. good luck, i really do hope you find a way to deal. even more. i hope you get a better girl and make both of them jealous of you. now that would be sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mist [/i] [B][COLOR=red][SIZE=1] :rolleyes: Puh-lease! Shows how much [b]you[/b] know about reality...[/SIZE] [/COLOR] [/B][/QUOTE] Then choose decent friends. They usually show you signs that they hate you, believe it or not. Get out of the common teen denial phase of your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mist Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Harry [/i] [B] Then choose decent friends. They usually show you signs that they hate you, believe it or not. Get out of the common teen denial phase of your life. [/B][/QUOTE] Touche! I live in Arkansas; decent friends is rare indeed and yes, I believe that they show you signs of how they feel about you. Sorry, but the "common teen phase" has never entered my system; I'm thirteen. Also, "acting" superior doesn't make you superior and your stab at it was very annoying indeed... ...Anyway, back on the subject, when you talk to them, like everyone else has stated, remain calm. Juu, I'm sorry, but I have to side with the other person who said it takes two to tango. Now if the girl/guy had ripped away, then that would be a different story, but I'm assuming that's not the case. But what ever happenes, Vegitto, you know that your OB friends are always here to help you! (Unless you've benn captured by Nazis, then you're on your own...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mist Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 [color=red][size=1][QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Harry [/i] [B] Then choose decent friends. They usually show you signs that they hate you, believe it or not. Get out of the common teen denial phase of your life. [/B][/QUOTE] Touche! I live in Arkansas; decent friends is rare indeed and yes, I believe that they show you signs of how they feel about you. Sorry, but the "common teen denial phase" has never entered my system; I'm a very happy person and have nothing to deny. Also, "acting" superior doesn't make you superior and your stab at it was very annoying ... ...Anyway, back on the subject, when you talk to them, like everyone else has stated, remain calm. Juu, I'm sorry, but I have to side with the other person who said it takes two to tango. Now if the girl/guy had ripped away, then that would be a different story, but I'm assuming that's not the case. But what ever happens, Vegitto, you know that your OB friends are always here to help you! (Unless you've been captured by Nazis, then you're on your own... :D)[/color][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mist [/i] [B] Touche! I live in Arkansas; decent friends is rare indeed and yes, I believe that they show you signs of how they feel about you. Sorry, but the "common teen phase" has never entered my system; I'm thirteen. Also, "acting" superior doesn't make you superior and your stab at it was very annoying indeed... [/B][/QUOTE] You're 13, give it time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 "A true friend stabs you in the front." ? Oscar Wilde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyGirl Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 [color=deeppink]I'm just going to clear this up and let everyone know that she's not his girlfriend...that may change a few people's opinions.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Ah, well, if she wasn't his girlfriend that does tone down some things there. Well, forget the girl, and confront the friend. Don't drop him unless he doesn't seem to care. But I think that point has already been established. ^_^ It sucks what happened to you, but try to have a long-term perspective about this. It may really matter if you dump this friend of yours or not, for the bad or the good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven's Cloud Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 [color=indigo]Not your girlfriend!? Well then, it seems that your friend is blamless. You just have to get over it and find another girl, maybe next time you'll act quicker...[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Eh, I wouldn't say [i]blameless[/i]..... inconsiderate is more fitting. I mean, yeah the girl was kinda free 'game' but if the friend knew Vegitto liked her, then he had to have thought sometime either before/while/or after he was kissing this girl 'gee, he's not going to like this...... oh well'. Come on, this friend wasn't being very loyal to say the least. At least the friend could have come to Vegitto and told him straight up what was going on before he heard it from everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delian Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 I'd have to agree with Anna...I didn't realise she wasn't your girlfriend. Your bestfriend and the girl could have been upfront and honest with you, but I don't think a grudge or any hard feelings should be held here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegitto4 Posted July 15, 2002 Author Share Posted July 15, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Harry [/i] [B] You're exagerating it. If he was your best friend he wouldn't have done that. [/B][/QUOTE] Ok, well, HI ALL I got back already, like yesterday. Patrick and I were cool, but i still might fight hm, most likely not. I talked to amy, and were straight. She said that it just happened, but after that, and after I left, she realized how much she loved me, missed me, and how much she didn't like patrick that way. So, were straight. Patrick hasn't returned my call yet. Now on to harry's post. You are the biggest moron ever. Anybody can stab you in the back. If you think that just because he is my best friend, that he couldn't, then you are way to trusting, and have a skewed concept of reality. I mean, come on. Has your trust never been broken yet. If it hasn't, it will be. I have been screwed over one to many times to not watch my back. Evientally, I slipped up once, and this is what happens. So right about now, I dont trust anybody. Least of all, patrick. But everythign is good for the moment. We are all waiting to see what happens sooner or later. Thanks for the thought, I haven't read the whole thread yet, but i'm about to. Heavens cloud, you dont know **** man. I love her. Any man would respect the feelings of his best friend about a girl. The girl should realize how much she is cared for by this man, and also respect that, even if there is not a dating relationship in the mix. It doesn't matter. BG, I feel like she is my g/f. I dont care what you ppl say about that. Both of us love each other. If we never go out, we'll still Love each other. I am goign to be having a talk with all of her future b/f's, and even her husband when she marries him. They get one chance, thats it. I dont want her life getting screwed like mine has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pyro_kai Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 vegg....if you really think she "realized" how much she loves you your going to get burned :flaming: to a crisp and i mean she will play you like monopoly i have seen it happen so many times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegitto4 Posted July 16, 2002 Author Share Posted July 16, 2002 so have I. Thats why i have started watching my *** at more than every turn. I am going to a party tonight, and patrick will be there. I will post the details tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Vegitto4 [/i] [B] Now on to harry's post. You are the biggest moron ever. Anybody can stab you in the back. If you think that just because he is my best friend, that he couldn't, then you are way to trusting, and have a skewed concept of reality. I mean, come on. Has your trust never been broken yet. If it hasn't, it will be. I have been screwed over one to many times to not watch my back. Evientally, I slipped up once, and this is what happens. So right about now, I dont trust anybody. Least of all, patrick. But everythign is good for the moment. We are all waiting to see what happens sooner or later. Thanks for the thought, I haven't read the whole thread yet, but i'm about to. [/B][/QUOTE] Yeah yeah yeah. My trust has been broken, but not by my best friend. You just dont' know who's a good friend and who's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Harlequin Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 [font=gothic][color=crimson][quote][I]Originally posted by Vegitto4[/I] I talked to amy, and were straight. She said that it just happened, but after that, and after I left, she realized how much she loved me, missed me, and how much she didn't like patrick that way. So, were straight. Patrick hasn't returned my call yet.[/quote] Pyro Kai's right. That's even worse. You got suckerpunched, and now you're setting yourself up again. I envy you not the fall. Me, I wouldn't get stabbed in the back by a friend. I have no friends. I have however, been stabbed in the back, literally. But that's off topic. 12th time...[/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegitto4 Posted July 16, 2002 Author Share Posted July 16, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Harry [/i] [B] Yeah yeah yeah. My trust has been broken, but not by my best friend. You just dont' know who's a good friend and who's not. [/B][/QUOTE] Dont speculate on things you dont know. Both of us have helped each other through more **** than you can imagine. If it wasn't for either of us, both of us wouldn't be here. You just dont know these guys, my 2 best friends are Ronnie, and patrick, they are the only ppl I actually hang out with. No, you would be somewhat right, in saying that a best friend ** in theory** would not stab you in the back, however, Thats theory. Were all human, therefore are susceptible to many things. Stabbing one in the back is a product of greed. So is lust. Kind of. It's complicated. I know I might get burned. Both of them are only getting this last chance. I dotn know what would happen if I got screwed again. I would probably harden my heart, and never love again. Whats the point if you are just gonna get hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 look on the bright side. In all the movies and tv everytime they get screwed they always say " i will never love again" and then the next day the other people break up or whatever and you meet somebody better.Life is has its ups and downs and once you look at the big picture its alot better than you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 [quote][b]BG, I feel like she is my g/f.[/b][/quote] [color=royalblue]But she isn't, is she? As much as you hate that your friend did this...there isn't much you can do about it. I can sympathize with your situation though. There's nothing worse than a friend going after someone you like yourself.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amibasuki Posted July 17, 2002 Share Posted July 17, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Vegitto4 [/i] [B] I talked to amy, and were straight. She said that it just happened, but after that, and after I left, she realized how much she loved me, missed me, and how much she didn't like patrick that way. So, were straight. [/B][/QUOTE] "it just happened?" sounds like your girl is just fickle to me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegitto4 Posted July 17, 2002 Author Share Posted July 17, 2002 well, she is a flirt, and just goes with the flow of things mostly. I'll work it out. I will defintely keep you guys updated, more like a misery update. you'll get sick of it after awhile. Thanks for all the support and words. We just got back from the movies. Minority Report was good. To bad she's grounded, and her parents hate me. To James' post--- I agree, there isn't much I can do. But aren't friends supposed to respect the feelings, and understood wishes of each other? Family as well. As it turns out. My little brother is flirting with her. I told him to stop, and we all got into this big fight. he stoppped, after he realized that he didn't think first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amibasuki Posted July 17, 2002 Share Posted July 17, 2002 I've got a friend who's in the same situation as you. the girl he likes sounds like the same type of girl that you like too (oy). I say just drop her, she's definitely not worth it. if she's a flirt and she says she loves you after she went and kissed your friend, she's got a serious lack of sincerity. heh, I wouldn't worry too much about your little brother, him just being a stupid little brother and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted July 17, 2002 Share Posted July 17, 2002 I went out with a girl like that once. I hate it when girls play games. There's nothing more frustrating. -Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juu Posted July 17, 2002 Share Posted July 17, 2002 Erm,... well, if she wasn't your g/f..... that totally changes things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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