Sephiroth Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 I was looking through the net for a while and I stumbled upon this.... [IMG]http://modzero.cs.uaf.edu/~ferrio/ad2.jpg[/IMG] yes, funny it is, but this brings an interesting point which has been discussed a few times before.... just where does nintendo really stand now concerning this "nintendo is for kids" debate that has been going on for years? nintendo have proved to us time and time again that they are always about quality gaming, their games may look childish, but as has been said before for numerous things, don't judge a book, or in this case, don't judge a game by its cover.... nintendo have always released quality AAA titles loved by many, and unfortunately, critisised by many also, who tend to be put off by the cutesy nature of nintendo's games, and instantly disregard them as games for kids, and only kids.... but this is where they are all wrong, let us take a look at mario 64 for the N64, the game looks childish and cutesy, yes? but did that stop it from being one of the most brilliant games of all time? people need to understand that a game does not have to be violent, have swearing or sex, to be a good game, a game can be simple yet so addictive, take a look at tetris, it was a simple puzzle game which has seen numerous sequels.... I simply do not understand why many people dismiss nintendo as a kiddie company, when nintendo's main focus has always been quality, regardless of graphics.... I think I've rambled on for enough now, what are your opinions on the matter? and yes, it is a funny pic, lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Solid Snake Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 [color=teal]Although your arguments were good, I would still recommend going back and picking this up on the old thread that we used to discuss this, rather than making a completely new one. By the way, the person in your signature only has four fingers, heh.[/color] :blah: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrat Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 The pic is actually quite disturbing, but Gamecube rules. Im buying one today, main reason is because of Mario Sunshine, it may be childish but Who cares! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinzam v Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Now who the hell said that gamecube was for kids gamecube is for anyone. They just have quiet alot of kiddy games like mario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dragon Gundam Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Great pic Sephiroth. I agree people saying Nintendo is only for children are just stupid. Who cares if the majority of the games are pointed towards kids. I still enjoy the "kiddie" games, so there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kazuya Mishima Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Twinzam v [/i] [B]Now who the hell said that gamecube was for kids gamecube is for anyone. They just have quiet alot of kiddy games like mario [/B][/QUOTE] Now hold on just a minute Twinzam. Did you just say Mario is a kiddies game? You have to take into account how hard Mario 64 was, think about it, collecting all 120 stars is'nt all that easy. It took me a good solid 2 months to collect 110, until I finally gave up. There are also many challenging levels, for example, the level where you have to carry a baby penguin through out the stage in an icy environment. But to the point Sephiroth, one thing I've managed to notice is the fact that many "childish" Nintendo games turn out to be relatively better and more popular as compared to many other mature looking games on Nintendo consoles, like SSBM, its sales are through the roof, and turns out to be much more liked than Bloody Roar 3. Hmmm...I kind of like that picture...*sets it as wallpaper* :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trakwing Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Kazuya, I think Twinzam meant that it was directed towards kids. It took me 3 months to beat Mario 64. Prooving it isn't easy, but he never said it was easy, he just said it was directed towards children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kazuya Mishima Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Trakwing [/i] [B]Kazuya, I think Twinzam meant that it was directed towards kids. It took me 3 months to beat Mario 64. Prooving it isn't easy, but he never said it was easy, he just said it was directed towards children. [/B][/QUOTE] That is what he meant, but what I was stating was that if such a game was directed at children, then why would it be so hard? This is clearly something for the people at Nintendo to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjaman Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Nintendo for kids? Oh pshaw! Let's not forget Zelda. Some parts of that game are definately not for kids. But it still disturbs me sometimes that they release Disney games and some other cutsy ype of games on the Nintendo systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroBlade Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Oh boy, I know James is gonna post this thoughts here soon...... Now, the only reason why people claim Nintendo is for kids is only by it's looks. Just like Sephiroth said, don't judge a game by its cover. I tend to play Mario and animal related games from time to time since I enjoy them more than games that have blood, gore, guns, etc. Let those people say its for 'kids', evenutally they'll realize how stupid that statement is and miss out on some great games. Now that pic of Barney I think REALLY sends the wrong message. If it wasn't due to games aren't like what this pic seem to portray then I would easily believe Nintendo is for kids. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desbreko Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 [color=indigo]Heheheh... I've seen stuff like that picture before... Anymore I don't really get mad when I see something like that, I just laugh. Like ZeroG214 said, those people are just going to miss out on some really great games. It's their loss. But yes, you have to realize that Nintendo's games are almost always very successful. Now, if only kids got those games, they wouldn't do nearly as well as they do... So, to anyone that actually cares to think about it logically, it's quite obvious that Nintendo's games aren't just for kids; if they were, not as many people would buy them, and they wouldn't do as well as they do. Also, as mentioned before, the difficulty of a lot of Ninendo's games should tell people that they aren't just for kids. True, some of their games aren't all that difficult, but some of them can be dang hard. I also had a hard time getting all 120 Power Stars in Super Mario 64 the first time through. It seems like it's mainly people that refuse to listen to logic and play the game for themselves that think that Nintendo's games are all aimed at kids. Anyway, there's my thoughts on the subject...[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrist cutter Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 This topic has already been discussed in another thread... not too long ago either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 This argument has been done time and time again and it's worthlessness never ceases to amaze me. People that dismiss the GameCube as a children's system are, a good deal of the time, children--children whose parents purchased them another console. They don't have jobs, so they can't own the GameCube. Thus, they convince themselves that they have the better console by putting down the GameCube's software by labeling it as "kiddie." It's all very laughable. Think about it. It's typical of children to say "My toy is better than your toy." A mere glance at titles such as Resident Evil, Eternal Darkness, Metriod Prime, Bloody Roar: Primal Fury and the upcoming Die Hard: Vendetta prove otherwise. Critics, and I use that term very loosely, of Nintendo who make these unintelligent claims can't be true [I]gamers[/I]. If they were to actually examine games such as Mario, they would see beyond the sugary exterior. Kids these days, lol. They complain about a supposed lack of adult oriented titles, and they legally can't purchase the more mature titles anyway. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desbreko Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 [color=indigo]Actually, there's no law against kids buying M rated games, at least where I live. It's perfectly legal for me (being 14) to go and buy Eternal Darkness, or other M rated games, it's just that some stores won't sell M rated games to people under 17. But yeah, this actually has been discussed before, on a number of occasions... It is getting rather old...[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 Hmm, there must be a law. Certain games do require the presentation an ID before purchase. Conker's Bad Fur Day is a prime example....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desbreko Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 [color=indigo]Well, there might be a law other places, but my friend went out and bought Eternal Darkness about a week ago, and he's under 17. The ESRB ratings are just a suggestion, afterall, to help parents decide whether a game is suitable for their kids.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 [color=royalblue]We have indeed only just had a thread identical to this. I think most people here are pretty sensible. Those of us who own GameCubes (and/or PS2s) are well aware that a game's visual style doesn't mean that it specifically for children. Just look at Kingdom Hearts on PS2. You can never judge a book by its cover. People who use this very weak criticism are people who really don't understand either Nintendo or gaming in general. And as such, their opinions are pretty invalid when it comes to gaming discussion.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshimitsu Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by James [/i] [B][color=royalblue] Just look at Kingdom Hearts on PS2. You can never judge a book by its cover.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE] Exactly, I for one am a ps2 owner, and currently don't own a GCN. But do I think it is kiddie? No I don't. I am actually considering mowing lots of lawns for a GCN. You know you want something when you are mowing lawns in San Antonio,Texas during the summer. Eh, I am getting off track now. There are plenty of "kiddie" games on ps2 and X-Box, and there are plenty of "mature" games on the GCN. Even those that are "kiddie" on the GCN are better than alot of the "mature" games I have played. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 [color=royalblue]Oops, I forgot to close this. I recommend using the other thread to continue the discussion.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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