Anime The Super Saiyan levels

[Kinetic]

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Then DBGT must have a huge plot-hole, seeing as how Goku is always turning SSJ with a tail.
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[Vegitto4]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mr Chaozu [/i]
[B]Another thing, Brolli is NOT the Legendary SSJ. They just made that up because everyone and their dog started becoming SSJ and they needed an explanation. Goku is the legendary one, simple as that. Dragonball GT has so many plot holes I don't know where to begin. [/B][/QUOTE]

reallllllly. Could you back that up with some proof? if you can, i would love to know where you found all that out. if not, then your statement will be regarded as moronic

[Guest TheSuperSaiyan!]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Vegitto4 [/i]
[B]

reallllllly. Could you back that up with some proof? if you can, i would love to know where you found all that out. if not, then your statement will be regarded as moronic [/B][/QUOTE]
Yes, if you come back with a credible scource of proof, I shall beleve you, but right now, I don't know where you got that from anyway Mr Chaozu.

[Zenkai Powa]

Probably because Toriyama said Son Gokuu was the legendary Super Saiya-jin...and Toei made Burori up...And the can't transform into Golden Oozaru because you need to look at the Full Earth. Hell Toei MADE UP Golden Oozaru. Never has it said you need to no longer have a tail to transform into a SSJ.

[shibatku]

Yeah I agree with you there. It never says you need to have lost your tail to transform.

[Chaos]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mr Chaozu [/i]
[B]Yes Saiyans can't go Super Saiyan if they have tails. So there is no "if they went SS with a tail" because they can't. [/B][/QUOTE]


Saiya-jins CAN go Super if they have a tail. Look in GT. And I swear, if you bring up the whole "Akira didn't make up GT" thing I'll..*sighs*...GT follows the main idea and 'rules' of Z. Bottom line: A Saiya-jin with a tail can go Super.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mr Chaozu [/i]
[B]And just for the record, VEGETA DIDN'T CHEAT SSJ4!!! The brute ray just allowed his tail to grow back to he could turn Oozaru once again. [/B][/QUOTE]


Just for the record, you mean Bebi Vegita. For that matter, Bebi Bulma. To the best of my memory, Bulma was being controlled by Bebi when she used the Brute Ray.



[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Zenkai Powa [/i]
[B]Probably because Toriyama said Son Gokuu was the legendary Super Saiya-jin...and Toei made Burori up...And the can't transform into Golden Oozaru because you need to look at the Full Earth. Hell Toei MADE UP Golden Oozaru. Never has it said you need to no longer have a tail to transform into a SSJ. [/B][/QUOTE]


You're half right/half wrong there. Vegita said Kakarot was the Legendary Saiya-jin. But, as we all know, DB and Z were headed by Akira Toriyama. Thus, he created Brolli. And, according to the movies and Toriyama and countless FACTUAL sites, Brolli IS the Legendary Saiya-jin.

And yeah, you can have a tail and still go SSJ. It's if you go Oozaru when you're SSJ with a tail is the kicker.

By the way... 'Full Earth'? What the Hell? Earth suddenly loses a half of itself or something? Actually, it's any large mass of matter that reflects some type of light energy which triggers the Oozaru transformation. Which is why a Saiya-jin wouldn't transform while looking at the sun, because the light is too harsh to grasp a glance at it.

But I see what your point is. But sadly it was a bit...'distorted'.

[PiroMunkie]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SuperSayian [/i]
[B]By the way... 'Full Earth'? What the Hell? Earth suddenly loses a half of itself or something?[/B][/QUOTE][color=indigo]Lol, think for a sec there Neil, it's the same concept as with the moon. Depending on what position you have around the Earth, the sun won't be hitting every part of it. That's why we have this thing called [i]night[/i]. So if you wnet into space and went around the Earth, there'd be times when you could only see parts of it, or it'd seem like there was no Earth at all.[/color]

[Chaos]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by PiroMunkie [/i]
[B][color=indigo]Lol, think for a sec there Neil, it's the same concept as with the moon. Depending on what position you have around the Earth, the sun won't be hitting every part of it. That's why we have this thing called [i]night[/i]. So if you wnet into space and went around the Earth, there'd be times when you could only see parts of it, or it'd seem like there was no Earth at all.[/color] [/B][/QUOTE]


-_-

You missed what I was saying. I was implying that the way he worded it made it seem that only Earth, and Earth when it was in one piece, could make a Super Saiya-jin go Golden Oozaru.

So nyah.

[Vegitto4]

so, is this freaking debate finally over??????? it should have been done along time ago

[Zenkai Powa]

I didn't mean it as exactly 'full earth'. Whenever the Earth gives off enough whatever to make the gland in the Saiya-jins tail react to make 'em transform is what I meant. And if I remember correctly Toriyama only played a part in movie 13. The others were done completely by Toei.

[Gavin]

[color=teal]So a saiya-jin can actually go Super Saiya-jin if he has a tail, this puts a lot of confusion to rest[/color]