Anime Pink Power Ranger toy????

[Devidramon]

Whoa. How long did it take you to right all that?

As for "spitting out the same garbage," it's far better when one season actually follows the season before it instead of trying to reinvent the wheel every time. If they'd stuck to the same universe all along, we wouldn't get the dumb endings like the bad guys getting de-bad-ified by purifying waves or protecting babies. The universe of the show gets to gain complexity, and characters have the time to get developed better. It's hard to get to know and love the one-hit wonders as much as the ones who are in for the long haul like the originals. And they don't get enough time to have rich histories like Tommy's or Billy's.

[Omar Harris]

1. It took me like ten minutes. I'm a pretty fast typer and have all this knowledge stored in the back of my head, of course with pretty much everything there is to know about Digimon, TF Beast Wars and Beast Machines, DBZ and some other cool shows.

2. The yellow time force ranger is Katie, not Michelle. My mistake, as if anyone cares.

3. Yeah, Tommy and Billy were cool back in the days. Even though they were pretty well done, we still had some questions. We don't see enough of the rangers' families. For once we could see the extant of their interactions with others and have their families victimized more. I know all the current teams have been made up of twenty somethings but still. And what about Billy's family. We never see them around. or Tommy's for that matter.

4. I agree about keeping past characters, but not for 4 shows in a row. When I saw Turbo I was like, dude, how much more can they do for Tommy. He's been there almost since the beginning. It was great they developed him more, but 4 shows(if you count Alien Rangers)!? And why the heck did they get rid of their Zeo powers? I know they needed the keys but Zeo was so much better than Turbo. The super moves, the character development, the Zords. I mean they replace the Turbos in the middle of the show and expect us to like them immediately when the show is halfway over.(although Ashley and Cassie were hot)

[Devidramon]

Tommy was around for maybe six seasons. Which is longer than most shows last. But most shows' ending casts match their starting casts very closely, and nobody complains. In fact, the complaining is when the one or two departing characters departs. There was practically nuclear war over Daniel leaving SG-1. In fact, very, very few shows do the new season=new reality/new cast thing. If the same characters for more than one season offends you, how do you stand to watch TV at all?

As for Turbo, the worst thing was the repetitiveness. Divatox's one bomb after another. Not necessarily in strategic locations, either. It's hard for a monster-of-the-day show to not fall into formulaic-ness, and Turbo went straight into that pit: if you've seen one ep, you've seen them all. They thought replacing the cast would help, but, no matter who's in it, a show's boring if it doesn't have a story to tell, and Turbo didn't. I can deal with the Turbo Zords. In fact, the vehicles were cool. In Zeo, the Green and Yellow Zeo Zords were just cannons with wheels that the other zords just pulled around. That's not a real Zord. The Super Zeo Zords weren't that impressive. They all looked alike except for the color and the symbol. The Turbo Zords were great, especially when individually, as vehicles. The Turbo folks also got better weapons. But, no story, no dice.

Also, they tried to pull the wool over our eyes too much. General Havoc's soldiers looking exactly like Chromite, one of Divatox's early monsters, (in fact, the only one that was really memorable) and the Dark Spector being a copy of Maligore from the Turbo movie. (We did meet the D.S. in the Turbo finale, right?)

I only remember seeing Billy's parents that time they had a Parents Day at the school. They were in two scenes. Billy's last name was never spoken in the show. Most sites say Cranston, but they must have gotten that from the official site, as they sure didn't get it from the show. And Tommy's parents weren't there at all, even in the Parents Day ep. We know his brother David, and we know that he's (probably) of Indian descent. That's about it.

Cassie was hot, but I think Ashley was just okay. Nobody's hotter than Trini, though. Second is Katie from Time Force. Then Katherine.

What do DBZ fans like about DBZ? I've tried to watch it a few times, but it takes forever for things to actually happen. I've never seen anything on it that made me want to be sure to come back at the same time next week, and yet, *everybody* loves it. I really want to know, how is it such a great show?

[Nerdsy]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Devidramon [/i]
[B]
(We did meet the D.S. in the Turbo finale, right?)
[/B][/QUOTE]



[COLOR=deeppink]More than just the Turbo Finale... He was in most of In Space.



And you're neve too old to play with Power Ranger toys. *goes to play with his Zords*




And thank the gods there is finally a Power Rangers topic! Kazaa![/COLOR]

[Hyper]

this sure brings back old memories.
After this topic i realized that power rangers space is on at sundays but they skip a lot and move on. at least the have finales and premeries.:)

[Devidramon]

Please tell me the finale wasn't this past Sunday. I tried to record it, but Mom changed the channel, so I've got a tape of "House and Garden TV." I did get the shweet Ecliptor vs. Darkonda battle at the beginning of Astronema Thinks Twice, though.

[Nerdsy]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Devidramon [/i]
[B]Please tell me the finale wasn't this past Sunday. I tried to record it, but Mom changed the channel, so I've got a tape of "House and Garden TV." I did get the shweet Ecliptor vs. Darkonda battle at the beginning of Astronema Thinks Twice, though. [/B][/QUOTE]


[COLOR=deeppink]The finale of In Space? No, the finale wasn't this sunday. They only got up to when Carone (sp?) was brainwashed into being Astronoma again.


And that Ecliptor and Darkonda battle, by the way, is one of my favorite Power Ranger battles of all time.



And Best of is a godsent to me. I just wish that they showed [i]every[/i] episode of Power Rangers ever. I don't like the jumps in story.[/COLOR]

[Hyper]

is the finale is when they go to the jungle planet to find Zordon?

[Nerdsy]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by HyperShadow [/i]
[B]is the finale is when they go to the jungle planet to find Zordon? [/B][/QUOTE]


[COLOR=deeppink]I don't think so... If I remember correctly, the Rangers are defending earth against the combined might of Rita, Zedd, Divatox, the Machine Empire, and Astronoma.[/color]

[Omar Harris]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Devidramon [/i]
Tommy was around for maybe six seasons. Which is longer than most shows last. But most shows' ending casts match their starting casts very closely, and nobody complains. In fact, the complaining is when the one or two departing characters departs. There was practically nuclear war over Daniel leaving SG-1. In fact, very, very few shows do the new season=new reality/new cast thing. If the same characters for more than one season offends you, how do you stand to watch TV at all?[/QUOTE]

I said that wrong. You see I've watched God knows how many years of the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, Family Matters, THe Simpsons and others so more than one season for a character doesn't offend me. I was trying to say that I was sick of the same overhaul being made for the same character. One minute he's green. HE comes back as white. Then he's zeo ranger 5. Then he's turbo. Why couldn't they just keep him in one form and develop it very well or have a replacement for him earlier? I like changes to the characters if the changes don't detract from who the character is but not the same one every time.

[QUOTE]Cassie was hot, but I think Ashley was just okay. Nobody's hotter than Trini, though. Second is Katie from Time Force. Then Katherine.[/QUOTE]

Asian chicks are so hot. CAssie was my fave then Katie, and then Kimberely. I always liked her over Trini for some reason.

[QUOTE]What do DBZ fans like about DBZ? I've tried to watch it a few times, but it takes forever for things to actually happen. I've never seen anything on it that made me want to be sure to come back at the same time next week, and yet, *everybody* loves it. I really want to know, how is it such a great show?[/QUOTE]

You know that's the mystery. A few years ago my friends introduced me to the show. I was still a growing anime fan at the time so any anime would do for me. I saw the movie "Tree of Might" and it kicked major butt. What can I say? Action and Sci-fi or two things I love about TV and to see them together is even better. The animation was okay, simple basically, but the fight scenes drew me in. I watched the first two seasons and loved it. Then the Cell saga came to AMerica, finally, and it sucked so horribly. Repetitiveness, the characters spend all their time fighting (no one seems to have a job in that show), a lot of episodes are just "fillers", Cell could have been better, cool villains like Frieza were now running gags (which is why I hate what happened to Goldar), it takes like twenty episodes to focus on the same period of time (in the Majin Buu series they go after a group of villains and enter a ship where they descend levels by fighting more enemies. For the next eight-ten episodes only about half and hour or so has actually passed in the show. Weird), and even worse is scenes where characters power up take like twenty minutes of the show.
And don't get me started on fight scenes. Those take like God knows how many episodes before they even reach a climax, the characters stop and start talking so many times in the fight, then fight again for another unknown number of episodes, then the good guys get teh upperhand, the villain comes back stronger than ever and more fighting goes on until finally the heroes kill the villains, something that in most situations they could have done so much earlier. I used to love DBZ but now I only watch it for the same reason I continue to watch Pokemon and Power Rangers; to see what's ben going on.

[Devidramon]

I *hated* the trying-to-release-MajinBuu eps. For several episodes, they're just standing their flapping their lips, and we get stock footage of the death of some bad guy that Vegeta had wanted to be the one to bring down. Four episodes, and they stand there glowing, and whoever's going after the midget sorceror dude (or dudette. I never could tell.) is always *on the way* to wherever this is supposed to take place, and nothing actually moves. It takes them forever to get down to business, and you only *think* five minutes of digivolving in 02 is bad: there are attacks in DBZ that take full episodes to power up. They are very skilled at seeing to it that the plot hasn't progressed one inch in the four episodes. Sheesh.

Yeah, I hate it when a villain becomes a joke. Rito was so devastating in his first appearance, but after that, almost never landed an actual hit. He became the replacement for Squatt and Baboo as the resident lame-brain. In fact, Baboo did manage to get in one hit back in Power Ranger Punks. Rito wasn't even that effective after his first appearance. I hated Goldar being idiotic after losing his memory. He was always a heck of a warrior. After going back to Rita and Zedd, he never did much. I wanted to see him battle it out with some of the Machine Empire's warriors. Also, in Digimon, once BlackWarGreymon showed up, Arukenimon and Mummymon go from being cool and mysterious (well, Arukenimon was cool and mysterious. Mummymon's claim to fame is being the only one who can put Paildramon in his place.) to being the digital Team Rocket. All they needed was a Gatomon-shaped hot air balloon. I hate it when my favorite villains get turned into stand-up acts. If they'd done that to Ecliptor, I'd have had to cause someone some serious bodily harm.

I never minded Tommy's frequent costume changes. I can see new costumes coming with new power sources. There was always a reason for it. And Tommy himself never changed. It was just another costume, just like he changed his hair style every month. It was still him. I just wish the costumes had been better. Zeo's the only style I really liked. Add that to the list of grievances, along with the way there's been no good music since the end of Zeo.

[Hyper]

Majin buu eps? those were s boring but i like the idea of the most destructive,force is a fat pink baby blob of rubber.
But after he was reserected it was much better. even in japanese.lol

[Omar Harris]

You know I was watching the Wild Force/Time Force crossover today and I notice something. The three mutorgs costumes resemble the outfits of Dark Konda, Loki, and Deviot. Throwaways probably. Do you think the series will ever finally end? I like it somewhat but how many more fresh ideas can they keep producing? It seems the creators are straining now a bit. Either that or had ideas the fit certain areas. For instance they've used some of the zords twice or more but then again I can see Lion and Tiger fit with wild force and all.

[Schrat]

I cant believe I just found this thread! I was obsessed with the Power Rangers during Mighty Morphin, Kinda into it during Zeo and Turbo , and then i lost likeness for it. But I watch the reruns on ABC fam. so Ive been see'n In Space which I like alot. I find Wild Force really cheesy, but whatever. Does anyone know what series will be after Wild force, I think they should go back and do another MM, that would be awsome....

[Devidramon]

I know the bison looks exactly like the Magna Defender's zord. I don't mind the Wild Zords matching the Ninja Zords, because they don't look the same. Now, if the Bear Brothers were recolors of Aisha's bear zord, there'd be problems. The real problem would be if the stories started to repeat. As long as they've got a story to tell, I wouldn't mind if the next generation of Rangers unearthed the Turbo Zords and started using them.

Can't wait for tomorrow morning. The Space finale and Lost Galaxy premiere, neither of which I have on tape yet. In the immortal words of Homer Simpson, "Woo-hoo!"

[Hyper]

I just saw the Finale and it suprised me.


I was suprised by the Andros/Ashley romance. I never saw it coming because i never saw all of space. I loved the scene where he destroyed Zordon's energy tube and destoyed all evil. You can really see the relation between demetria and divatox when she is healed. Rita and Zedd a couple out under a spell? who would ever think..Robot empire?? whats eries were they in?
I think Astronema looked awful in short red hair. I always thought Ecliptor was cool. The death of Dark Spector and Darkonda was so anti-climatic. It was so sad when ecliptor mentions how Astronema was like a daughter and when Carone is revived by Andross's tears.Didnt Ashly look angry when she closed the door of the space ship? The finale was really good. I jus wished all the other rangers from evry other season(before space) came to battle. That would of been good.

The wildforce/time force mix was preety good. I hought Jenn looked extremely cool in her skin tight black leather outfit nd the way her hair was done added a nice touch.I was glad Ransik turned normal because every time i saw him it made me want to gag.lol

[Devidramon]

I loved the finale, though I think it was a bit too duckies-and-bunnies the way everything ended perfectly. Also, who was reverted to their good selves and who was turned to dust was completely skewed. Ecliptor wasn't evil, he was just devoted to Astronema. He "loved her like a daughter," always watched out for her. And one of the things he yelled at Darkonda during their big fight in Astronema Thinks Twice was that Darkonda was "without honor." If Ecliptor's so evil, why's he care about honor? No, he should have been spared because he wasn't all bad. The same with the Machine Empire (they're the main villains from Zeo.) Machines are programmed by someone, and can be reprogrammed. Whereas Rita, Zedd, and Divatox showed no signs of having ever had a good bone in their bodies. World domination and generally spreading chaos was all they ever cared about. They never showed a hint of any other emotion (except for Divatox's trying to revive her husband Maligore.) They were all bad of their own free will, and enjoyed being that way. Seeing them being nice is just... weird.

Side note: Rita was beautiful without her supervillain getup that covers most of her face. Was that the same actress? If so, which one? There have been two Ritas, the first being Soga Machiko and the second being Carla Perez. (Though the voice is always Barbara Goodson.) This Rita looked Asian, but not quite like the old Rita.

Ecliptor and Mondo, though, have a chance. Ecliptor, early in In Space, was taken down and went KABOOM, the standard monster send-off, and was alive and well later with no explanation. Maybe an illusion, or maybe he's like Darkonda, with multiple lives. So, if the body that was turned to sand by Zordon's wave wasn't the last one, he could still be out there. Wouldn't be surprised if he was staying out of sight but watching over Karome as always. And Mondo went kaboom too, in Mondo's Last Stand. I saw no way he could be revived then, either. And yet, he was. (Same for the Power Coins. Turned to dust, and yet the Mastodon coin was intact enough for one final use by Adam.)

And we didn't see Rito, Goldar, Baboo, Squatt, Finster, Master Vile, Rygog, Porto, and quite a few other guest villians or non-main villains when Zordon's wave hit. We don't know who was reverted and who was wiped out.

I did love to see the bad guys attacking in force. Outer-space dogfighting, alien armies charging after fleeing civilians, I love that stuff. And the bad guys were actually winning, and actually trying. No more monster-of-the-day, they went all-out with many warriors dating back to the very beginning. I would have made it a four-parter, though, and shown all the bad guys' progress across the galaxy. Bring back a few good guys, too. The Blue Centurion was one of many, and yet, we only saw the one. Yes, they're from the future, but the Blue Centurion came back to warn the Turbo team about several villains attacking in force, which was exactly what was happening Countdown to Destruction. I'd have a whole interstellar police patrol up against the Machine Empire, the Aquitian rangers leading a navy against Divatox and a bunch of submarine-spaceships like hers, and all the various teams of past Rangers facing off against the forces of Rita, Zedd, the Varoks (however you spell it. The gold-armored guys hunting the Gold Ranger.) On Edenoi (or however [i]that's[/i] spelled) we'd have Dregon and Nefaria and their army against King Lexion, the Masked Rider, and their resistance (remember "A Friend In Need?") and for Rita and Zedd, forget standing around in the desert. They'd be in the [i]Serpentera,[/i] wasting armies with each shot. Whoever took them on would also have to deal with Lokar, the floating head dude with the spiky hair that Rita called forth sometimes (Doomsday, Island of Illusion.) Scorpina leads armies, while Goldar would be in Cyclopsus (The Green Candle.) All those leftover Zords, like the Ninja Zords, the Shogun Zords, the Zeo Zords, the Super Zeo Zords, the Turbo Zords, Tor, Titannus, the Red Battle Zord, and the Warrior Wheel, would get to come out and play to contend with the bad guy alliance. Also bring back Ninjor, Dimitria, and Lerigot. If all the PR universe's major bad guys are in town, so should all the good guys who kept them in their place over the years.

Also, I'd have made the ending a little different. Like I said, who'd get wiped out and who'd get turned good would be different (Ecliptor and the Machines stay, Rita, Zedd, and Divatox go. Finster stays too, because he was more of a scientist. He was interested in making his monsters bigger and better, and didn't care how his work was being applied. He's not really evil, just obsessed/misguided/something.) And instead of making everything absolutely perfect in the end, Astronema/Karome would have died. The shot she took would be fatal, but the device controlling her would have been damaged, so she'd get to be Karome for the last few minutes, and she would thank Andros for stopping her and say she was sorry for the things she did as Astronema, Andros would tell her it's not her fault, and then she'd say goodbye to him and to Ecliptor. And, at the end, Andros and Ecliptor would stay on KO-35, as would Ashley. Zhane would keep the ship and explore the universe (and possibly turn up a time or two in Lost Galaxy.)

As for Divatox/Dimitria, you'll notice that in the first season of Turbo, Divatox was played by Carol Hoyt. In the second season, Hillary Shepard Turner, returns to take over the role (Turner is [i]so[/i] hot!) and Dimitria starts appearing on the credits at the end, and she's played by... wait for it... Carol Hoyt.

I didn't see all of Space, either. I noticed that Ecliptor looks different in the finale than he does earlier in the show. What happened to him? Also, we see his real face at the end of part one, and he looks way too young. I'd have expected him to look like Bra'tac from SG-1, or maybe General Martok from DS9. Of course, that was just the usual actor not wearing his helmet, and isn't intended to be the character's real face.

I liked Astronema's original look best. Complete with the ever-changing hair color. I wonder if that's natural for her and Andros' planet or what?

A few things I wonder: do they still have their powers? Good guys and bad. Zordon's wave turned the villains into their human forms, but it did so to the Rangers as well. However, we can see they're still wearing their morphers. Can they still morph? And can Karome still teleport and all? And what happened to that cool lightning spear of hers?

Also, how much time was there between Space and Lost Galaxy? The ship's mothballed, and Damon says "it's a museum, not a spaceship," but Bulk, Skull, and Phenomenus aren't much older. Also, how'd Zordon's wave wear off so fast? The Space ending leaves you with the impression that all the evil in the universe is gone, but there's no shortage of villains for Lost Galaxy.

I didn't see the Wild/Time Forces x-over, though. But, with the Family channel showing WF once a day, I'm sure I'll see it soon enough.

[Hyper]

well you know how Drak Spector made that enhancement on Astronema?
Well Darkonda did the same to Ecliptor. Made stuff to make him more Evil.

I think they should have just destroyed all the evil stuff. Instead of turning Ecliptor and the Machine Empire and toher stuff into dust (well, sand) i think they should have been purified. So all of them would be good but still alive.

[Nerdsy]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Devidramon [/i]
[B] Cyclopsus (The Green Candle.)



I didn't see all of Space, either. I noticed that Ecliptor looks different in the finale than he does earlier in the show. What happened to him?

Bulk, Skull, and Phenomenus [/B][/QUOTE]


[COLOR=deeppink]Cyclopsus wasn't in that episode... I don't think. I know there wasn't any candle in the episode he was in. Tommy did make a guest appearance, though. There was a clyclops monster in The Green Candle, but it wasn't the machine that Goldar piloted. It was a shapeshifter. I could be wrong though, it's been a while.



Excliptor looks different because he was brainwashed. Those machine parts apparantly brainwash him. It was the same thing that happened to Astronema.



And Bulk, Skull, and Phenomenus are three people that I wish above else never left the show. I had always loved the Bulk and Skull characters, and Phenomenus put a new spin on them.


And yes, I do think that the In Space rangers kept their powers, because I remember them doing a crossover with Lost Galaxy and they could use their powers then.[/COLOR]

[Devidramon]

Oh, yeah. Cyclops was from Green Candle. Cyclopsus was from Doomdsay.

I didn't see the crossover ep. Were Bulk and Skull in it too?

[Nerdsy]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Devidramon [/i]
[B]Oh, yeah. Cyclops was from Green Candle. Cyclopsus was from Doomdsay.

I didn't see the crossover ep. Were Bulk and Skull in it too? [/B][/QUOTE]


[COLOR=deeppink]Actually, I didn't see the crossover ep as well. I just remember it from one of those recaps before the show. But Skull couldn't be in it, considering he was left on earth, and Bulk and Phenomenus were in an amount of episodes I could count on one hand if 3 of my fingers were cut off.


Of course, with my poor memory, I'm probably wrong about the crossover...[/color]

[Devidramon]

I figure if the Space rangers are in it with Andros' ship still on Terra Venture, they started from Earth somehow, and Skull could make an appearance.

They should never have put Bulk on Terra Venture and left Skull on Earth. They played off of each other so perfectly that you can't just have one of them around and it be the same. And if they're only going to appear once in a pale blue moon, it's not like it'd cost too much to keep him around.

Did we ever see Dimitria again after she left in Chase Into Space?

[Omar Harris]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Devidramon [/i]
[B]I figure if the Space rangers are in it with Andros' ship still on Terra Venture, they started from Earth somehow, and Skull could make an appearance.

They should never have put Bulk on Terra Venture and left Skull on Earth. They played off of each other so perfectly that you can't just have one of them around and it be the same. And if they're only going to appear once in a pale blue moon, it's not like it'd cost too much to keep him around.

Did we ever see Dimitria again after she left in Chase Into Space? [/B][/QUOTE]

After Chase into Space part 1 Dimitra is gone for good. I hated Bulk and Skull's roles in Lost Galaxy. They had Bulk listed in the opening credits of one episode in season 2 and then he's gone forever. The thing I hate about every season after In Space is that with the exception of Lost Galaxy none of them have a non-PR related supporting cast. In MMPR you had Ernie, Bulk, Skull, Lt. Stone, Mrs. Appleberry, and the Principle (I think his name was Mr. Turner but I'm not sure). Then they had Angela as Zach's love interest, Ricky as Trini's, the big black lady (I think her name was Angela as well) who took over the Gym and Juice bar and Professor Phenomenus. But in Lightspeed Rescue and all the later ones there are no supporting characters other than those who know the rangers' identities and/or are involved in their activities in some way. They need more Bulk and Skull characters for comic relief and maybe some characters to interact with on a daily basis when not saving the world. Then the show would have more real world basis.

I too disagree with the minimal direction they took for Countdown to Destruction but don't you think killing off Astronema is a bit harsh. It was already an ironic ending that they had to kill Zordon after searching for him. Why not let Astronema live. I don't think Ecliptor should die by the purifying wave but at least let him go out in style. Probably sacrificing himself to save Astronema when Andros accidently wounded her.I don't know about sparing the Machine Empire though. They too were too evil to actually let live. Unless we learn who created them we really can't say if they were programmed that way. Maybe they were just so influenced by evil or came from a long line of evil robots.

One thing I would change most about PR is Zeo. They left so much behind in the conclusion. Unlike every other show Zeo left everything PR related intact. They could have stretched out that show a lot more. It has the room for it. Then they could do something to introduce Turbo.

[Hyper]

I just heard that Carone becomes the pink ranger in Lg or is it always Kendrix. I found this hreat PR website that has info on evry season and zord spoilers for WF.
I'll post the URL when i can.

[Schrat]

I feel that after In Space and about half way into Lost galaxy, maybe from the begining, everything went downhill. Everything was watered down versions of past things and it just wasnt the same, maybe that was because i grew older, I dont know.....

Can someone give me a overview of WF, after they start getting new beasts....