Omar Harris Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 The Beetleborgs in "Forever Red", with the exception of Shadowborg whose costume was used for General Vengix, were all good guys in the old show. In Big Bad Beetleborgs, 3 kids, Jo, her big brother Drew and their friend Rowland were betted by teh neighborhood bullies to stay in a haunted mansion for a night. They accidently free a magic, Elvis-impersonating ghost named Flabberghaster (or Flabber for short) from an organ, and he grants them one wish: to be their favorite superheroes, the Beetleborgs. It was Red Striker, Blue Stinger, and Green Hunter Borg respectively. Shadowborg was an evil Beetleborg they had in the series. In the last episode, a villain named Nukem, who was created not by the Beetleborgs' creator Art Fortune, but by his insane brother Lester, destroyed the Beetleborgs powers and freed Lester from prison to be his servant and make new monsters for him. Art created new Beetleborgs, Platinum Puruple, Chromium Gold, and Titanium Silver, to replace the old powers. The Beetleborg costumes used for the villains in "Forever Red" where: Green Hunter, ShadowBorg, Dragon Borg, Lady Borg, and Lightening Borg. For the last three: In Beetleborgs Metallix, Art and Lester (when they were kids) had made up a sword and eight magic coins for the Beetleborgs (before Art used teh idea to become famous.) The coins each summon a new Beetleborg. There are four good ones (Dragon Borg, Lightening Borg, Lady Borg, and Fire Borg) and three evil ones (Scorpix, Hornix, Centipix, and Mantix) when all 8 coins are joined with the sword, they summon the giant Robo Borg. Lady Borg was the yellow suit, Dragon Borg was green and light blue, and Lightening Borg was the reddish suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrat Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 ohhh and why did they team up with vengix to find the machine empire...or did they just use the suits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Harris Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 It wasn't the Beetleborgs themselves. The creators of Power Rangers, who also did Beetleborgs, just used the suits of the Beetleborgs for Venjix and his men. Venjix' outfit is that of the ShadowBorg and the rest were taken from other BeetleBorg costumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devidramon Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 Dragon Borg and Lightning Borg? Thanks, I could never remember what those last two were called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerdsy Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 [COLOR=deeppink]Well, things are taking an interesting turn in Wild Force. The episode that was on this morning was all right, I enjoyed all the parts with Toxica and Jindrax. Master Org made his predictable return... ho-hum. I liked the way he looks now, he looks a lot more evil. MANDILOK IS GONE! Ya-hoo! The Toxica plot was my favorite part of the episodes. Showing her blind loyalty... and Jindrax, saying Master Org didn't have a "heart". I thought no orgs had a heart. Huh. The Shadow Rangers... ug. It's been done, think of something else besides rangers fighting rangers. I liked that Duke Org. He was awesome. Well, I'm done rambling.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devidramon Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 I was going to wait to see if anyone had seen it before talking about it. It was a great episode. For a season that started so horribly, I'm amazed. One awesome episode after another. It's almost the same rollercoaster ride Space was... well, I wouldn't go that far. But it's more exciting and interesting than it's been in a very, very long time. First, Toxica and Jindrax. They were the main event. I can't believe she'd actually go as far as cutting off her horn just to get back in Mandilok's good graces. Now I see why they kept her and Jindrax out of Unfinished Business. If she'd seen what happened to Zen-Aku when he lost his horn, she'd have known better. Remember how he was as weak as a kitten and one good poke to the chest made him come down like a sand castle? Man, I nearly cried when Toxica died. That was the saddest moment in the show. (Yeah, the preview for next week suggests that she's coming back, but I didn't know that at the time, and it was really sad.) And now, I got to really hate Mandilok. Not the way I used to hate him, as the most annoying person ever to appear on the show from Day of the Dumpster to this very moment, but as a character whose guts you can actually hate. This was [i]not[/i] the Mandilok who did nothing but talk about food. I didn't think he'd ever get to the point of being respectable as an actual villain. I knew he had it in him. Still, I was [i]not[/i] sad to see him go. I was sad, however, to see Onikage go. He was awesome. And I've got new respect for Dan Woren. Good evil voices are rare, and he's just about perfect. The only thing I'd heard him in before Zen-Aku (before he left and Lex Lang took the job) and now Onikage was Mimi's dad in Digimon, and it wasn't remarkable. He wasn't bad, but he didn't stand out. He stood out as Onikage. And the character himself: He was devious, he was cunning, he had an impressive bag of tricks, he didn't fight stupidly but he kicked butt when he did fight... Onikage's the man. The org. Whatever. And he's got the villainous-honorable thing going, saluting Cole's tactic to of beating him. (Which made me grit my teeth at Cole for bragging. [Thwacks Cole] You don't do that!) The blind-following element was interesting. The way Toxica and Jindrax used to follow Master Org, and when they figured out who Master Org really was, they didn't figure out how to take him on themselves, say, go find a bunch of normal orgs, or put several spirits into one object to make a super org like Tombstone Org, or something else [i]they'd[/i] be in control of, they went to find a new leader. Onikage used their blind following of their leaders against them, but he was just as blindly following Master Org. "I live to serve." I was yelling at Onikage (not yelling, but actually saying out loud. Rare I do that about a show.) "What do you think he'll do to you if when he decides he doesn't need you?!" I mean, this guy uses their blind loyalty against them, all the while following the same blind loyalty, but just to someone else. I wonder if Master Org told him to cut off his own horn, would he? If I'd been writing this, Jindrax would turn against the Orgs but not join the Rangers. Become a Magna Defender-like enemy-of-enemy but not real ally. Onikage would become Master Org's right-hand monster, and his ninjas would be the grunts (no Toxica, no Putrids.) And I remember saying just a few days ago that every team had faced evil Rangers except for the Wild Force gang. And today we get Shadow Rangers. (The Zeo gang didn't, but each member of the Zeo rangers except Rocky either had or would face an evil opposite.) Finally, the Wild Force gang gets their turn. And that Pegasus Megazord was shweet. Anyway, I can't wait for next week. I never thought I'd say that about Wild Force, but it's a regular occurence now. I hope Ninja Storm's this intense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Harris Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 Onikage was awesome. I love that trick where he slices himself in half and pulled teh rangers into the spirit world. He was a good villain. One thing I never liked though: When a show introduces an "all-powerful" villain, who can't be stopped and then after a while, the heroes can kick his butt from left to right. Sorta like the Dark Masters. Onikage did a good job whomping the rangers one. The Pegasus Megazord was cool even though Princess Shayla tears activating it was kinda hokey. And did you see the fight scene. Finally something to distract us from that horrible excuse for acting she does. I realized right from teh get-go that Toxica would not "die" permanently. The best storylines get screwed up when the people die a sad, impactful death, and don't stay dead. *coughs and points to his "Return of Optimus Prime" VHS* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devidramon Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 Or Lost Galaxy. It was kind of anticlimactic when Kendrix pretty much says "Hi! I'm inexplicably alive again!" Or Digimon Adventure, where [i]all[/i] Digimon return to the eggs upon death so 'death' isn't 'death,' it's a minor inconvenience because it's never permanent. I don't think Onikage was ever easy to beat, just that the Pegasus Megazord's a superstrong formation (and if the Lion's gone back to normal, we probably won't see Pegasus again.) And since the shadows only care about killing the originals, it makes sense that the shadow Onikage would go down as easily as the Rangers blasted him: he wasn't paying attention to the Rangers or trying to defend against them, it was the real Onikage he was after. What I can't swallow, though, is why Onikage would try to make a shadow Jindrax instead of just killing Jindrax on his own. Shadow Jindrax would only be as strong as Jindrax, while Onikage's much stronger. What I also can't swallow is that Jindrax would go back just to give his little speech. He knows Master Org's stronger than him, he knows Onikage's stronger than him, and he goes back to face both just to rant at them, though he's spent half the episode running from them? One more reminder that, no matter how good they make an ep, Wild Force is still Wild Force. :p They also did a really good job with the splicing this time. Try as I might, I could never figure where the US footage ends and the sentai footage begins. Yeah, I'd definitely leave Toxica dead and her death would be Jindrax's motivation. Think the Magna Defender and Zika. Toxica vs. Shayla was hilarious. Her lousy acting (though it's got to be intentional. Nobody's that bad accidentally.) interspersed with Matrix moves... I was rolling. And Toxica can shapeshift? I thought she just had her real form and her human form (the one from the premiere.) Can all Duke Orgs do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerdsy Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Devidramon [/i] [B] And I remember saying just a few days ago that every team had faced evil Rangers except for the Wild Force gang. And today we get Shadow Rangers. (The Zeo gang didn't, but each member of the Zeo rangers except Rocky either had or would face an evil opposite.) Finally, the Wild Force gang gets their turn. [/B][/QUOTE] [COLOR=deeppink]When did Time Force do this? I think Wild Force has way to many Megazords... feh. ABC is all ready hyping Ninja Storm. They did really bad "Red Ranger Masks" things. You could easily tell what it said.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devidramon Posted October 21, 2002 Share Posted October 21, 2002 One time, they got sent into another dimension where they had to face evil opposites. It was either then or the time they got stuck in those mirrors. But they did have to face bad Rangers in one of the spare dimensions that PR villains always seem to have lying around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper Posted October 21, 2002 Share Posted October 21, 2002 didn't see that eppy. Hope I'll catch i next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Harris Posted October 21, 2002 Share Posted October 21, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Nerdsy [/i] [B][COLOR=deeppink] The Shadow Rangers... ug. It's been done, think of something else besides rangers fighting rangers.[/COLOR] [/B][/QUOTE] Hey, every super hero needs an opposite, a "What if I had been a villain." look at himself/herself. Its just that none of the evil ranger teams have been as awesome or done as much damage as villains as the Psycho Rangers. Another Psycho-level Ranger team and that would be a welcome breath of fresh-air from these "dime a dozen" guys that last like 10 minutes or less into the episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerdsy Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by shadowdramon [/i] [B]Hey, every super hero needs an opposite, a "What if I had been a villain." look at himself/herself. Its just that none of the evil ranger teams have been as awesome or done as much damage as villains as the Psycho Rangers. Another Psycho-level Ranger team and that would be a welcome breath of fresh-air from these "dime a dozen" guys that last like 10 minutes or less into the episode. [/B][/QUOTE] [COLOR=deeppink]I wasn't saying I completely hate the idea of evil Rangers, I was saying that Power Rangers has all ready [i]done[/i] that, probably 9 times. I'm somewhat sick of it. Psycho Rangers were the only ones I really liked, as well. I mean, I can't get into Putty's with Ranger suits on it as much as those purely evil Psychos. [/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devidramon Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 To me, the evil rangers are a tradition. There [i]must[/i] be a sixth Ranger, there [i]must[/i] be villains trying to backstab or one-up each other, and there [i]must[/i] be a team of evil Rangers. They'll never top the Psycho Rangers, though. Only thing I didn't like about the Shadow Rangers was the way that hitting your shadow self hits you. That means no good battle because the Rangers' hands are tied. They did a pretty good job with shadow Onikage, though. I think they had Onikage go through all the real Onikage's moves during the day and the shadow Onikage's moves at dusk. And yet, it looked just like they were actually hitting each other. Kudos to the folks who worked on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper Posted October 26, 2002 Share Posted October 26, 2002 I didn't see the last part yet, I will tommorow but I'ms till puzzled why you guys see everything a week before me. I just saw the destrection of Toxica. How sad. I almost cried, Toxica was my favorite villain. Shadow Rangers don't look so good. I thoguht they'd be different then what I saw in the preview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerdsy Posted October 26, 2002 Share Posted October 26, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by HyperShadow [/i] [B]I didn't see the last part yet, I will tommorow but I'ms till puzzled why you guys see everything a week before me. I just saw the destrection of Toxica. How sad. I almost cried, Toxica was my favorite villain. Shadow Rangers don't look so good. I thoguht they'd be different then what I saw in the preview. [/B][/QUOTE] [COLOR=deeppink]Are you watching it on ABC Family or just ABC? It shows the episodes a week earlier on ABC then it does ABC Family. I can't really give you a time, because I don't know if it changes depending on the region. *sigh* I missed today's episodes. >.< I had to leave early to go to a meeting of the local anime club which, as it turns out, wasn't even meeting today. I didn't miss anything too important, did I? It wasn't the season finale or anything, I hope.[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devidramon Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 I missed it too, but ABC Family is one week behind ABC proper, so whatever happened, all we have to do is wait a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Harris Posted October 27, 2002 Share Posted October 27, 2002 Naw, you didn't miss it. ABC played [I]Inside Stuff[/I] and [I]Football[/I] in PRWF's place, again. You know Devi, you mentioned something about how cozy Goldar and Scorpina were. Well I found a site that has every PR sentai, including those that never made it to the states. In the original Goldar and Scorpina's original characters were married and had a baby together who never made it in the state's version. Also, Rito has a human form that is dressed as a punk rocker and there are quite a few Japan-exclusive Ranger teams that, most of whom have outfits that look so much better than anything brought to America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerdsy Posted October 28, 2002 Share Posted October 28, 2002 [COLOR=deeppink]Did Ranger Central shut down? I can't seem to get on it. Man, I hope I can somehow get ahold of some Sentai episodes... I've seen the suits as well, and they look great. Battle Fever J, anyone?[/COLOR] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devidramon Posted October 28, 2002 Share Posted October 28, 2002 I liked the Zeo costumes best (except those faceplates.) And Jetman had neat masks. I'd like to see JAKQ in action, though. They sounded cool. Goldar and Scorpina have a child? What must s/he look like? And I wonder what kid of parents ten-thousand-year-old villains make. "I told you [i]not[/i] to use your monster form in the house! You can never get the acid burns out of the carpet!" "Next time you turn your brother into a Galactabeast, you're grounded!" Is Gaoranger better or worse than Wild Force? Say, notice that when the Shadow Rangers first appear, they have those sashes that the Rangers wear for about two seconds, then the sashes are gone in the next scene (and for the rest of the eps?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Sound_Nin] Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Devidramon [/i] [B]He's trying to take it because he knows it will annoy Kari. The usual brother/sister thing. [/B][/QUOTE] Very true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Harris Posted October 29, 2002 Share Posted October 29, 2002 You know something I just found out at Sentai Sanctum: The Red Battalizer armor (PRiS) and the armor that the TF Red ranger and Quantam Ranger wear don't exist in the Japanese versions. I would have figured them to have that. I don't know about Leo's armor from Lost Galaxy but I do think Cole's does in the *** version. Some of the armor they give the Red Rangers is cool (Cole's is the best in my opinion) and some of it is just...weird. (Quantam Ranger has roller blades on his.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrat Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 Can someone give me a site with some ***. and amer. PR stuf like a good site....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrat Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by shadowdramon [/i] [B]there are quite a few Japan-exclusive Ranger teams that, most of whom have outfits that look so much better than anything brought to America. [/B][/QUOTE] Yeah I remember seeing somewhere that when the original rangers got there thunder zords, thats what they were called right?, (remember the 3 part primetime eps), That in ***. they got new outfits with like fire and stuf idk, maybe thats another show im confused...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Harris Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 I have the site for Sentai Sanctorum. This has every ranger sentai and a list of differences between them and their American counterparts [URL=http://rovang.org/sentai/]http://rovang.org/sentai/[/URL] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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