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Well I don't think i've ever gone out and went shopping for clothes. Occasionaly (sp?) my mom will go out and buy we some clothes from places like American Eagle Areocrombie ect when they have a sale and say here I bought you some shirts. So I don't really have my own "style" But I keep on telling her that I wanna go out and get some clothes that have those funny things on them like "Never underestimate stupid people in large groups" or somthing like that.

But the one thing in the world that bugs the hell out of me is people that wear ties over T-shirts shorts over long pants and then add huge striped socks and pull them up all the way. It's one thing to dress "in your own style" or "different" but it's another to look like a blind person dressed you. (Nothing agaist blind people) I mean these kids look so stupid. I mean for gods sake match your clothes. I don't care what people wear. They could be goth, punk, skater, or prep and I wont care as long as your clothes match. There is one thing to have an "style" and another to look just plain dumb.
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i agree defcon, but really, give em a break...i'm sure some unkown force is making them wear stuff like that..besides, they're they're own individuals, so maybe that's just how they dress...

there was a bit of chat here about dressing different for the sake of being different, so i thik that that's the "different" you're thinking of, and that the people who dress "dumbly" also have their own style...:)
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I agree with you Neil, but it really depends on the uniform...I went to a school that was cool, but really small (they had to shut down after two years), anyway, they made us wear uniforms, and they looked alright (khaki pants, and forest green/navy blue shirts), but they were the most uncomfortable things I ever wore. And their dress code was very strict. We couldn't ever wear coats or sweaters, no matter how cold it got (and they wouldn't let us in the school until the very [i]second[/i] it was time to open, so we were outside for half an hour freezing, in t-shirts), and if they let us wear anything, it was these horribly expensive, ugly sweatshirts. I liked the school, but some of the teachers and leaders sucked :p
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sounds harsh aries...no sweatshirts on a winter day? how cold does it get where you live? i don't really mind cold, i wear sandals, shorts, and t- shirts in the snow, but i know that ohter people care, so...........

but i guess uniforms do have their small benefits, it's just that they're openly trying to make us drones by stopping individuality, and uniforms will normally be the first step.
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[color=blue]I know the horror that is a uniform....I had to wear them from kintergarden to the 8th grade. First, white shirt and navy blue slacks/pleated skirt (*shudder*), then white shirt and black slacks/skirt. It was horrible. I was so happy I didn't have to wear them when I got to high school.[/color]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Defcon5 [/i]
[B]But the one thing in the world that bugs the hell out of me is people that wear ties over T-shirts shorts over long pants and then add huge striped socks and pull them up all the way. It's one thing to dress "in your own style" or "different" but it's another to look like a blind person dressed you. (Nothing agaist blind people) I mean these kids look so stupid. I mean for gods sake match your clothes. I don't care what people wear. They could be goth, punk, skater, or prep and I wont care as long as your clothes match. There is one thing to have an "style" and another to look just plain dumb.[/B][/QUOTE][color=indigo]Now that's just discrimination. Just because these people look different, you think they look stupid. I have a good friend that does that sort of stuff, so I must say I'm offended by that comment. Thinking your clothes have to match just shows how much society has impacted you and closed your mind off to things like that. :nope:[/color]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by wrist cutter [/i]
[B]No it's not. He's choosing to look like an idiot, it's not like he's forced to dress poorly.[/B][/QUOTE][color=indigo]Who are you to say he looks like an idiot, and that he's dressed poorly? Dressed poorly would be old, dirty, ripped up clothes and such. He may be dressed oddly, yes, cause it is quite different from what almost everyone else does. He is not dressed poorly though.

Also, it [i]is[/i] discrimination. If you don't believe me still, look it up. Or here, I'll do it for you: "[i][b]1.[/b] making or recognizing differences and distinctions [b]2.[/b] the ability to make fine distinctions [b]3.[/b] making a difference in favor or against[/i]" And what you are doing fits the third definition, being that you point out that he is dressed "poorly", and you take against him in think he look like an idiot. Let's even take a look at the example sentence this dictionnary has: "[i]There was discrimination against Jews in Germany.[/i]" So really, by putting two and two together, what you are doing makes you no better than Nazi Germany. Think about that for a while.[/color]
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[COLOR=darkblue]okay, you're preaching to the choir here. i feel your pain, literally.

i have always looked like a freak, & it's always been a huge embarrassment to my "in the public eye" mother. i can't even go out in public w/out her ordering me to change.

as she puts it, "it's not right that people judge you by appearence, but that's just the way it is."

whatever, i will continue to fight for non-confornity, individuality, a society where we judge each other by what's inside. people who judge each other by their clothing might as well judge each other by race or sexuality. i refuse to accept it, so i guess i'm a freak.

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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by wrist cutter [/i]
[B]lol, you are comparing me to Nazis because I realize that some fashion is ugly and idiotic.[/B][/QUOTE][color=indigo]Both are quite meek and closed minded ways of thinking. So the comparison is fair.[/color]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by PiroMunkie [/i]
[B][color=indigo]Dressed poorly would be old, dirty, ripped up clothes and such. [/color] [/B][/QUOTE]

What just because the person is dressed differently means he dresses poorly? Who are you to say someone is dressed poorly?

And I also have good friends who dress like that.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by wrist cutter [/i]
[B]Seriously - if I walked into school wearing a cape and underwear over my pants, nobody is going to think "He sure looks different and unique!". There's a difference between having a unique style and having no style.[/B][/QUOTE][color=indigo]Nobody? You really can't be too sure of that. If someone were to come to my school wearing a cape and underwear over their pants. First I would laugh, but not out of spite or mockery, but more as a "more power to you" kind of laugh. Obviously the person has guts, or just doesn't care, to show up in a public place dressed like that where they knew they could be very well ridiculed and made fun of. Every odd, or "idiotic", way of dressing is usually sparked by some amount of creativity. It's just people like you that can't see past the differences in the person's clothes to maybe think there's actually an intelligent person wearing them. Somebody with an open mind, and care-free.

If style, and what you wear actually means a lot to you, then go ahead and keep thinking that way. You'll fit in with everybody else that makes this world so condescending towards differences.[/color][quote][i]Originally posted by Defcon 5[/i]
[b]What just because the person is dressed differently means he dresses poorly? Who are you to say someone is dressed poorly?[/b][/quote][color=indigo]There's a difference between dressing different, and dressing poorly. Dressing different is basically what we're talking about here. Taking things that normally don't go together, and putting them that way. Dressing poorly however, is not different. Someone could be wearing a shirt that a lot of people wear, so he's not really different. The shirt is torn, tattered, food stains, dirt, etc... but it's still not different, it just has many phsyical flaws. That's dress poorly.[/color]
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All the girls at my school dress like hookers, and nobody cares. My parents are pretty bad about fasion too. "No, I will not let you go to school in that Gundam shirt!" "Nobody cares if you wear a shirt that asks a girl for their phone number, you ain't callin' them in [i]this[/i] house!" I mean, I can't wear shorts that go down my shins, do you know how much it hurts to be called gay (no offense) just because your mom won't let you wear decent clothing? I got susspended for beating the crap out of a kid a few years ago! My mom won't let me buy chains, Timberland boots, Abercrombie, Old Navy, etc.

I don't really care about what I wear, people kind'a force me to in a way.
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You're taking up the wrong argument against me. I've never said he was an idiot due to his dressing, I said he looks like one. Looks can be deceiving obviously, but if you're going to dress in a fashion that is completely ridiculous, then you have every right to be ridiculed for it.

And you defined exactly what I'm talking about - taking things that normally don't go together, and putting them that way. This is absurd, why would you go out of your way to look bad? It is part of that 'no style' category, not 'unique style'.

I am not a big fashion person. I do not buy expensive clothes and I do not make 'outfits' for myself. However, I dress normally. I dress in a way that is acceptable and not much more. I also have no problem with those who dress differently and make it look good.

And there's where the difference comes in. In an appropriate situation, if you come in wearing something completely radical and new, yet it works, then that's just super. But if you're just doing something stupid, such as putting things that don't look good together, then you're just opening yourself up to criticism. Obviously this is somewhat debatable, as sometimes people have different viewpoints on what looks good or not. However there's a difference between someone wearing a tie and shirt that don't match and someone with boxers on their head.
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Last time I checked putting food and dirt on your shirt doesnt normally go together. But all I was trying to say (although I came off a too harsh) is that the tie thing is a little peeve of mine like Baby Girls and girls wearing clothes that don't exactly complament there figure. It's just an opinon of mine that I was sharing. And please accept my apolige for being so rude in that first post.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by wrist cutter [/i]
[B]You're taking up the wrong argument against me. I've never said he was an idiot due to his dressing, I said he looks like one. Looks can be deceiving obviously, but if you're going to dress in a fashion that is completely ridiculous, then you have every right to be ridiculed for it.[/b][/quote][color=indigo]I never accused you of saying anybody was an idiot. Nor did I imply it anywhere. I don't imply unless I'm joking around. I agree with everything else you had to say here. Yes, people who dress what most common people would think is ridiculous, have the right to be ridiculed for it. I believe it's even in the Constitution. People have the right to judge and be judged. Most people are well aware that if/when they do something, people are going to comment on it, whether it be positive or negative. They know that, and thus are prepared for it if they carry out what they were going to do.[/color][quote][b]And you defined exactly what I'm talking about - taking things that normally don't go together, and putting them that way. This is absurd, why would you go out of your way to look bad? It is part of that 'no style' category, not 'unique style'.[/b][/quote][color=indigo]Notice I said "normally don't go together." Even you said down lower: "[i]In an appropriate situation, if you come in wearing something completely radical and new, yet it works, then that's just super.[/i]" So they don't neccessarily look "bad", they just look insanely different. So in looking different, people judge. Also as you said lower down, it's debatable since people have different viewpoints.[/color][quote][b]And there's where the difference comes in. In an appropriate situation, if you come in wearing something completely radical and new, yet it works, then that's just super. But if you're just doing something stupid, such as putting things that don't look good together, then you're just opening yourself up to criticism. Obviously this is somewhat debatable, as sometimes people have different viewpoints on what looks good or not. However there's a difference between someone wearing a tie and shirt that don't match and someone with boxers on their head. [/B][/QUOTE][color=indigo]Well, you are kind of repeating yourself here, just more specific with your thoughts. Again, people the the right to judge and be judge. So they know what they are doing when they do it. Perhaps it may be even criticism they are looking for, you just never know. I do understand the whole "unique style" and "no style" thing, but even having "no style" itself can really be considered a "style". It's the irony in life, I guess. With the whole wearing one's boxers on their heads, yes, that is a bit absurd, but how often do we see that? Football games and parties. There, those people are just having fun. It's not like they do that everyday, but it's also not neccesarily inacceptable, it's just able to be criticised. The only other chance of someone coming out with underwear on their heads would be a mentally challenged person or just a young child, and those who make fun of them for doing that are cruel.

From what I'm seeing it seems we have come to similar thoughts. Perhaps I misinterpreted something, somewhere. It was fun while lasted, and should provide an interesting read for others. I think so anyway... :)

I'm basically done with what I have to say.[/color]
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by PiroMunkie [/i]
[B]With the whole wearing one's boxers on their heads, yes, that is a bit absurd, but how often do we see that? Football games and parties. There, those people are just having fun.[/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah, I should've mentioned that. If it's just a one time thing for a few laughs, it's just funny. But when you start wearing underpants on your head everyday, in a serious manner, then it just becomes ridiculous.

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by PiroMunkie [/i]
[B]From what I'm seeing it seems we have come to similar thoughts.[/B][/QUOTE]

Interesting you should say that, since a few posts above you commented on my viewpoints being similar to those of Nazis.
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by wrist cutter [/i]
[B]Interesting you should say that, since a few posts above you commented on my viewpoints being similar to those of Nazis.[/B][/QUOTE][color=indigo]Lol, notice I said "similar" and not "same". Plus that was before we really started discussing. I see what you were getting at more and whatnot. I withdraw that comment about you.[/color]
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[color=indigo]I really like the color blue in my wardrobe, and last year, I had no blue colored shirts, and no money(well, not enough to buy a lot of clothes). I nevner went shopping with my mom ebcause i ahd a million shirts and she wouldn't let me get ny mroe. So I was all blue-less. Then, this year, I bought blue shirts(I only bought two three, and then there were two, one I don't wear, that I already had), and my mom totally freaked on me. She said: "Why is all your clothing blue? Why don't you wear some different colors?" Uh.. maybe I like blue? And I only had three blue shirts! Well, I bought a red shirt(only cuz my mom made me), and it actually looks pretty good on me(about a sixth of the school population told me they liked it). She finally stopped bugging me about it. It was similar to Lady Katana's situation I think, back on page one, or two. oy.

Well, I'm in middle school, and if any of you are in it, or ahve been, you always want to fit in with everyone else. So, basically, I'm not really that different in clothing. Some things, thought, I refuse to wear, like those 60's shirts with big horizontal stripes on them, or pinstriped capris, or very flowery capris, and finding pants are impossible, because EVERYTHING in my age group is low rise, and I HATE low rise. And even though I'm wearing what everyone else is, I don't buy shirts that are $80, just because is abercrombie. Who cares?

This is a bit off topic, but my body is really skinny(naturally, no I do not have an eating disorder, thank you very much), and I'm thirteen, so I don't fit into any normal pants at all. It's so embarassing when you have to go into the kid's section of macy's(I told ya don't buy anything name brand, unless I'm stupid and everyone here classifies MACYS as name brand) to buy jeans. :blush:

My mom has a problem with my sister's clothes, which I don't know why. My sister buys things(or used to), form hot topic, and my mom freaked. She can't even go in there because she has a problem with people in tatoos and nose rings. I seriously think my mom has something against people that aren't like her.[/color]
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