Gavin Posted August 2, 2002 Share Posted August 2, 2002 [color=teal]I was just wondering have there been any saiya-jin women ever in Dragonball/Z/Gt or were they ever mentioned. I was just wondering because I'd never heard of any[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinetic Posted August 2, 2002 Share Posted August 2, 2002 [color=darkblue] They show some in the Bardock Special, but they are never really covered, I wouldn't mind seeing a female saiyan (Pan :devil: ) go SSJ, though. [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBZanimeFreak3 Posted August 2, 2002 Share Posted August 2, 2002 i think once vegeta said no girl could go saiyan but i have also read pan or so went saiyan at the age of five. so i am not reallly sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiroMunkie Posted August 2, 2002 Share Posted August 2, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Aries [/i] [B][color=darkblue]I wouldn't mind seeing a female saiyan (Pan :devil: ) go SSJ, though.[/color][/B][/QUOTE][color=indigo]-___-;; Please don't bring that up for the sake of those who might actually think females can transform into a Super Saiya-jin. Cause they can't, and I honestly don't want a big discussion on it. Back to the topic, I believe the only Saiya-jin women that are given any credit are: Celipa, Pan [ :drool: ], and Bra. Celipa is a member of Bardock's crew, thus she is a full-blooded Saiya-jin. Bra is half-Saiya-jin, and Pan is a quarter-Saiya-jin. That's basically it, when it comes to Saiya-jin girls.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinetic Posted August 2, 2002 Share Posted August 2, 2002 [color=darkblue] Yes, and I think that Saiya-Jin females could have been a very good addition to the plot...maybe a female that Vegeta could never beat, and she's always making sarcastic remarks towards him, that'd be cool, but alas, Toriyama had to make it almost all male Saiya-Jins -.- [/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted August 2, 2002 Author Share Posted August 2, 2002 [color=teal]A [i]Female[/i] beating Vegeta no way that aint right by any account, Android 18 beating Vegeta was simply just luck...yeah I wish but he still is class[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaiyanPrincessX Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 I'd like to see Vegeta getting beat up by a girl, that would be funny. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkened Skye Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 Wait, why can't female Saiyins go Super Saiyin? Doesn't make genetic sense. Even if males are made for fighting by evolution, a female can still get massively large muscles. It's easier for guys, but females can do it. So why can't a female Saiyin go Ssj? Or is this just Imperial Japan shining through? Or was Vajeta just being sexist? Origonaly Posted by Red XIII: "A Female beating Vegeta no way that aint right by any account, Android 18 beating Vegeta was simply just luck...yeah I wish but he still is class" Okay, I was going to comment, but the last part kind of didn't connect in any way to the first part. So I'll simply say that to beat Veijita (did I get the Japanese spelling right?), all a female has to do is be stronger. Perfectly reasonable, especialy if the female comes from a race that has all the growth potential of the Saiyins (like Icejin, for example, which I'm convinced are superior to Saiyins). 'Course, we don't even know if there are female Icejins. They might be like the Nameks, for all we know. Do we know? I don't think we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiroMunkie Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Darkened Skye [/i] [B]Wait, why can't female Saiyins go Super Saiyin? Doesn't make genetic sense. Even if males are made for fighting by evolution, a female can still get massively large muscles. It's easier for guys, but females can do it. So why can't a female Saiyin go Ssj? Or is this just Imperial Japan shining through? Or was Vajeta just being sexist?[/B][/QUOTE][color=indigo]I could have sworn I told you people not to bring it up. No one knows why they can't transform into Super Saiya-jins. It wasn't just Vegeta who said. [i]Toriyama[/i] himself said it. So if you want to complain about how it "doesn't make genetic sense", go find him, and complain about it. We don't need that here. They just can't, period. Now stop talking about it. The only reason people [i]do[/i] try to prove it is because of that damn "DragonBall AF", and we all know that is fake, so there's no reason to talk about it. Now stop.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanek Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 Don't bring female ssj's in juust yet...the explanation is that Toriyama and others were just not able to make 1.Why don't u try drawing a female ssj?Not so simple now is it?Unless you draw their original here and make it yellow.Not much of a transformation now is it?And if u put their hair up like guys have it, they would look like guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSJ Pud Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 LOL thats 2 people who ahve ignored u thus far, and spoken on things u said not to bring up, Look like ur gunna have to hand out some asskicking to remind everyone whos boss around here :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juu Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 [color=deeppink] [size=1]But wait a sec, why would it be such a big deal if vegeta gets beat by a girl? I like your idea aries, that would have been pretty kewl, but.... Red, there's no such thing as luck, just skill. ^_-[/color] [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Juuthena [/i] [B][color=deeppink] [size=1]But wait a sec, why would it be such a big deal if vegeta gets beat by a girl? I like your idea aries, that would have been pretty kewl, but.... Red, there's no such thing as luck, just skill. ^_-[/color] [/size] [/B][/QUOTE] Most males have a certain attitude about them that if you get your *** kicked by a girl, you're a wuss. I doubt it'd be anything you'd understand. While women are an enigma, a male's pride is something that you just can't explain. And oddly enough, that is pretty much exactly how I feel about the whole "pride" thing. Vegita, eat your heart out. ^-^ Skye, it's actually Bejiita, but who really cares? ;P This board is English based, so feel free to spell it Vegita. Or be a dubbie and spell it Vegeta. Whichever. Doesn't affect me any. ^-^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juu Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 [color=deeppink] [size=1]Whoa... Neil is actually [i]not pissed[/i] for once!! *puts on party hat* ^^ nice to see you in a good mood![/color] [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkened Skye Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 I could have sworn I told you people not to bring it up. No one knows why they can't transform into Super Saiya-jins. It wasn't just Vegeta who said. Toriyama himself said it. So if you want to complain about how it "doesn't make genetic sense", go find him, and complain about it. We don't need that here. They just can't, period. Now stop talking about it. The only reason people do try to prove it is because of that damn "DragonBall AF", and we all know that is fake, so there's no reason to talk about it. Now stop. -Down boy - there's a good dog. Your a moderator, not a dictator, munkieman. Jeeze, give someone an ounce of power and they think they can override the Constitution of This Our Great Nation, the US of A. -Is Toriyama still alive? Probably. Okay, I'll add 'talk to Toriyama' to my list of things to do, right after the 'learn Japanese' thingy. SO I can acutaly speak to him. -Wait, how old is he? I don't want to disturb a realy old guy. -Dragonball AF is a magna, right? I think it is. If it is, then it counts as another series, because in order for it to have been made it would have needed wither Toriyama's or FUNImation's permission. Works like the Star Trek books. Just because it's not a show doesn't mean it doens't tie in. Don't bring female ssj's in juust yet...the explanation is that Toriyama and others were just not able to make 1.Why don't u try drawing a female ssj?Not so simple now is it?Unless you draw their original here and make it yellow.Not much of a transformation now is it?And if u put their hair up like guys have it, they would look like guys... -Female Super Saiyins (as geneticly they have the potential to exist) might actualy physicly look differant. Remember, the origonal Super Saiyin could only maintain that status when he was an Oozaru. So first off, concentrait on making a female Oozaru, and then try making one look like a Super Saiyin. Like I said - females have harder times building up the power. Masybe they need to get to an even HIGHER level of power first - perhaps, two million, as opposed to one million? -Anyway, the differant probably isn't that much. Muscles can't realy be defined more, because they just aren't as apparant on females -If Bra had been a boy, could she have gone to Super Saiyin? LOL thats 2 people who ahve ignored u thus far, and spoken on things u said not to bring up, Look like ur gunna have to hand out some asskicking to remind everyone whos boss around here -He's a moderator, not a dictator. -Are you sure that he said 'Females Saiyins cannot become Super Saiyins' and not 'There have never been any female Super Saiyins?' But wait a sec, why would it be such a big deal if vegeta gets beat by a girl? I like your idea aries, that would have been pretty kewl, but.... Red, there's no such thing as luck, just skill. ^_- -There is such thing as luck, but it has a tendancy to run out very fast, and half the time it's bad luck. Anyway, it wouldn't be a big deal. I'm sure that somewhere in the universe there's a female who could hand Vageta his ***. It's statisticly impossible for any other possibility. -Remember, there's always a bigger fish. Most males have a certain attitude about them that if you get your *** kicked by a girl, you're a wuss. I doubt it'd be anything you'd understand. While women are an enigma, a male's pride is something that you just can't explain. And oddly enough, that is pretty much exactly how I feel about the whole "pride" thing. Vegita, eat your heart out. ^-^ -I don't realy care. First off, we have to assume that I want to fight ANYBODY - which I don't, at least not physicly. If it comes to a physical fight, I don't realy care about who I'm fighting or what gender they are, I'll just be trying to think of any dirty, underhanded way to cheat I can. Women gave up the whole 'ladies first' thing when they got the right to vote. They want that back, then give up the right to vote. Skye, it's actually Bejiita, but who really cares? ;P This board is English based, so feel free to spell it Vegita. Or be a dubbie and spell it Vegeta. Whichever. Doesn't affect me any. ^-^ -Ah, spanish-sounding B (speaking of spanish, anyone think that the Namekian tounge sounds like it's spanish? It does to me when Dende's speaking to Porunga I could swear I heard "Me llamo es..."). And for an english-based board, I can name a few people who think that dubbies are idiots... -Anyway, thanks. Whoa... Neil is actually not pissed for once!! *puts on party hat* ^^ nice to see you in a good mood! -Hang on a sec, let's see who Neil is... -I see no Neil. Which one's Neil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSJ Pud Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 Actually he is adhering to the forum rules, Female SSJ leads to pointless arguments, spam, and often brings up DB AF. He knows the rules so listen to him. Once again i have to say that ur post is a jumbled mess that's very hard to read. If u wanna quote someone use the button, so its in a seperate box and much easier to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkened Skye Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 Actually he is adhering to the forum rules, Female SSJ leads to pointless arguments, spam, and often brings up DB AF. He knows the rules so listen to him. -Telling me not to post something is a violation of my first amendment rights. Arguments are almost never pointless, some just don't see the point. Spam is bad, though. DB AF is a magna to the best of my knoledge, therefore it ties in. Once again i have to say that ur post is a jumbled mess that's very hard to read. If u wanna quote someone use the button, so its in a seperate box and much easier to read. -Well, at least I know how to spell the word 'you'. And it's not realy a jumbled mess, it's pretty organised. I'm just used to doing things my way, and that way is my way, and it's hurting nobody, so I can continue to do that my way. Besides, too often the quote thing doesn't fit the entire quote, but I might wish to reply to one entire post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSJ Pud Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 hmm i thought everyone knew "u" was computer lingo for "you". As for your first amendment rights (snicker) do u really think they apply here? If u post something the admins, and mods dont want up, feel is pointless, or against the rules, they will delete it, and eventually ban you. I don't think they really care about your freedom of speech, as you can start your own forums anytime you like. There are such things as pointless arguments, because you can ask a question about DBZ that is never explained and therefore can never be conclusivly answered, and because there is no answer, there will be an endless argument between the 2 sides and no one will ever be right. DB Af is fake, and is not considered part of the Dragonball universe. I don't know if you are allowed to discuss it in General anime, or maybe another part of the boards, but here you are not. the rules clearly state andy topics about dragonball af will be closed and it is not to be discussed. Btw, Mr. Perfect, u spelt Organized wrong. [color=indigo]I hope you don't mind me using your post for a quick second. I don't feel like wasting my own post on this quick thing. Skye, with your whole "amendment" deal, U.S. Constitutional rights don't apply on the internet. If this board consisted only of U.S. citizens, then maybe it could abide by U.S. laws. Our main Admin here is from Australia for crying out loud. You can't force other people from other countries to abide by your own contries laws. If you insist on continuing this debate, I suggest you PM me so we can stop making a mess of this topic. - PiroMunkie[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkened Skye Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 hmm i thought everyone knew "u" was computer lingo for "you". -I do know that, but your jargon annoys me. As for your first amendment rights (snicker) do u really think they apply here? If u post something the admins, and mods dont want up, feel is pointless, or against the rules, they will delete it, and eventually ban you. I don't think they really care about your freedom of speech, as you can start your own forums anytime you like. -Yes I do think they apply here, no I don't think the moderators care, yes, I have a problem with that, yes, I have started my own board, no, it did not last long, yes, everyone loved the rules I put down, 'cause they were simple. There are such things as pointless arguments, because you can ask a question about DBZ that is never explained and therefore can never be conclusivly answered, and because there is no answer, there will be an endless argument between the 2 sides and no one will ever be right. -Doesn't matter. Chaos spawns growth. Order spawns it, too, but chaos brings it quicker. DB Af is fake, and is not considered part of the Dragonball universe. I don't know if you are allowed to discuss it in General anime, or maybe another part of the boards, but here you are not. the rules clearly state andy topics about dragonball af will be closed and it is not to be discussed. -not a magna? Okay, then. As for the fact that you can't talk about it here, that makes no logical sense. It relates to dragonball, therefor, we should be able to talk about it here. Btw, Mr. Perfect, u spelt Organized wrong. -I never said I was perfect, if I was perfect I would likely kill myself after laughing at everyone else because I was perfect. I was simply feeling nitpicky, because when people shoot my ideas out of the sky I get very, VERY annoyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSJ Pud Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 It does make sense because this forum is for reall Dragonball series. Also u can't really grow on some topics (such as this one) I mean you can argue why sayain females cant go SSJ for years and in the end you still won't have a concrete answer. Everyone will still have different opinions but it will still be a mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkened Skye Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 You can grow. No, the matter will never be resolved, but it will cause you to think out your reasons thuroughly as people rise to chalange your ideas. Unless you come up with one final thing that can't be denied. In my case, I argue that it's geneticly impossible, and nature dictates it is and has dicated that for epochs, long before I was even a gleam in some prehistoric rat's eye. You can't argue with that. The best you can do is try to come up with some way around that argument whilst I laugh in an evil tone. Huh. Epoch. That's a fun word. There should be a DBZ enemy somewhere named Epoch. He'd be some kind of massively old and powerful thing that gives Goku in Ssj x4 a run for his money. And he'd end up being defeated by something that's been trying to kill him for eons. Not by Goku, becuase Goku defeates almost everybody, he's like Veemon from Digimon in that repspect. ---------------------------------------- My random comment of the day: :demon: :demon: :demon: :demon: :demon: :demon: :demon: :demon: :demon: :demon: :demon: :demon: I SEE YOU. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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