Gaming armored core 2,aa,3... etc.

[Kent]

i just got armored core 2 for ps2. man, i have to say its the best mech game out there. i want to be able to discuss this game like what "good" is and how good people are. i also want to know about other games you all may know about that are similar. maybe even ones having to do with gundam. i dont know, but i think armored core is what the gundam games should be. considering i gave up on armored core after i bought the first and original, now ive come back and im not dissappointed one bit. amored core 2 is hands down the best mech game ever.

[DeathKnight]

[color=crimson]I love AC. So does Flash. Lol.

It has tight weapons, unreal customazation [butchered the spelling], and tons of missions. Also the Arena is fun to beat, getting the number one spot and being champion. ^_^

But the ending plain out sucked. I'm spoiled by endings for RPGs I guess. Lol.

It is one of the best, if not the best, Mech game that I have ever played.

-K[/color]

[RicoTranzrig]

The only thing that I had a problem with were the controls...which took a little getting used to. But after that, it's really a ton of fun customizing your mech. My friends and I all have the game for PS2 and we battle each week.

[Semjaza]

Is there any real reason to buy one AC game over another?

I've considerded buying one, as I played a demo a year or so back and like it quite a bit. I personally don't think it compared to Front Mission 3 or Carnage Heart on PSX, but I didn't get to play much of it.

Should I grab 3? Or are the previous ones better in some way? Thanks.

[Kent]

as for one over another, i believe there are valid reasons for picking specific ones. i went into buy ac2 another age and found out that it was pretty much the same as ac2 only there was no arena mode. that is a major draw back. ac3 also left out an arena from what i understand. (even bigger mistake).
the arena was what added so much to the replayability.
i would say buy ac2. then if that is as good for you as it was me. think about 3.
i woulnt be buying 3. especially with out an arena. plus, when companies make 3 or 4 sequels, theres a good chance for another. i wouldnt be suprised if there is an ac4 in the works allready. im not saying there is... but ive got a hunch. maybe if there isnt another with in 2 years ill think about getting ac3. till then, i say ac2. repeat. ac2 *not another age*

[RicoTranzrig]

I heard that either AC3 or AC2 exp had networking capabilities, is that true?

[Kent]

im not sure about the networking, but i just found out that there is an arena mode in ac3 and its expanded allowing up to 4 players. that means its settled.
get ac3. i would rent it just to check this stuff out. but if it has an arena mode. thats enough. other wise they are all good, the arena just makes the difference.
ac3 is the way to go. just check it out.
i will look in to the networking, it is very possible.

[SephirothNIN]

I have AC2, and altho I think it kicks ***, it would be a LOT easier w/ some freaking analog control. I think AC3 has that, and since it has a better arena and more missions (I assume), you should definately get that. Hopefully AC3 will have better beam saber weapons as well, the ones in AC2 were boring, if they could set it so you could swing it in different directions w/ an analog stick that would be awesome::drools::. They need more varied weapons, in AC2 there were a crapload yeah, but it was just slightly different machine guns, or rifles, or beam blahblahblah.

[ZeroBlade]

Let me help you guys out. I have all three AC game on the PS2. Now you guys are right about AC2 and AC2:AA being the same since AA is just an expansion. The game is great since you can transfer your old mech from AC2 as well as any "human plus" codes into AA. The game also has 93 single player missions and 7 two player missions. Only drawbacks in that AA doesn't have an arena mode nor it has any real story but its all good.

Now as for AC3. This game is the best of the 3. The game does have an Arena mode, two actually. One is the traditional one on one battle. The other, is a tag team battle that is only unlocked after beating the game.

All the parts in the game are new so you no longer can transfer your old mech from any of the previous 2 AC games. The game has about 50 missions that branch meaning you can only do certain missions depending on the ones you previously decided on. Now there are 2 types of cores. There is the Over Boost core (OB) which were in the last 2 games. Basically they give you a burst of speed for a few seconds, great for dodging. The other is new, Exit Orbit (EO). These have no Over boost but rather launches a small pod that either shoots or defends you. They require ammo, but its energy based so you can recharge the pod if it runs out of power. Only negative point is like the OB, it sucks away your energy, so use with caution.

Other new things is that you can go overweight from the start. Previously, in order to go into battle with weapons that go beyond the maxium weight of your bi-peds (hover base, tank tread, etc.) you had to finish the game first. However if you do go overweight, your mobility and speed will suffer GREATLY. In the last 2 games, if you went OW, it wasn't a big deal, this time around it becomes a burden. Thankfully, the game allows you to detach any useless weapons at any time. So say, if you run out of missiles, you can detach the launcher to make your Core faster. You can detach all weapons and extensions from your main weapon to your back weapons. As for your left arm. Traditionally, you usually have a sword or a sheild as your left arm weapon. This time you can change that and attach other weapons from a flamethrower to a small grenade launcher (a howizter). Its said you can also put another gun but I have yet to obtain that weapon.... oh and uh speaking of weapons some of them are really wicked. The Linear Cannon ownz...... Sorry, some of the Beam saber weapons are the same. Just that some are stronger than the other. They even went as far as removing the duel Beam saber arms from AC2.

The game is very strategy based now. If your carelessly just go into a mission and waste as much ammo as you can..... it WILL hurt your savings. Ammo costs alot in this game and it took me a while before I was able to afford decent parts. Whats more is that the game ranks you on your performance. F is the lowest while S is the highest. Obtaining an S isn't easy. While its not impossible, you must decide on what to slap your core with for any up coming missions. If you do well, you will be rewarded with bonus missions, extra cash and even better parts. If you find a mission that seems to be to hard to do alone, depending on the mission, you can hire help. You can have another AC, an MT or air support in some of the missions, but of course at a price. Lastly, remember the "human plus" code from AC2? Well its back but not without being changed itself. You can no longer have both Optional parts and the human plus since, HP is now a optional part. The stuff the HP can do is pretty much the same as in AC2 but you won't be able to use any other Optional part since the HP takes up ALL the optional part slots no matter what core you choose. So in other words, the "Ultimate Mech" isn't possible anymore.

Thats pretty much the low down on AC3. It may sound like it sucks but its still a great game. Controls are exactly the same as ALL the other AC games so those who played AC2 and such should know what to expect. Sorry the game still doesn't have analog control and it doesn't go online. For the online feature though...... stay tuned for Armored Core: Project Sigma.....

[SuruBlu]

Linear cannon? how do you get that, I'm working on the mission to get the Karwasawa(sp?) right now, i get all the way to the end where they launch the missles, and then i die :( Can you give me some advice? Oh and I too believe AC3 is the best one so far, and that link thing somebody was talking about, allows you to hook up 4 PS2s together to get 4 ppl to play. AC3 also has alot of small graphical enhancements esp. on the weapons, oh one thing you forgot zero, some of the weapons(mostly ones that take up your arms) have changable firing modes, cool indeed!

[ZeroBlade]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SuruBlu [/i]
[B]Linear cannon? how do you get that, I'm working on the mission to get the Karwasawa(sp?) right now, i get all the way to the end where they launch the missles, and then i die :( Can you give me some advice? Oh and I too believe AC3 is the best one so far, and that link thing somebody was talking about, allows you to hook up 4 PS2s together to get 4 ppl to play. AC3 also has alot of small graphical enhancements esp. on the weapons, oh one thing you forgot zero, some of the weapons(mostly ones that take up your arms) have changable firing modes, cool indeed! [/B][/QUOTE]

Sure, I'll tell ya what I can.... Lets see.. How DID I get the Cannon???? It was in the shop after I did a certain mission.... Its a back weapon thats takes up both shoulders of the Core. 10 rounds, energy weapon, 5828 attack power!. Recoil and accuracy is a pain though...and you gotta be kneeling to fire that thing.

Tips: Try and use your beam sword when you can as well as an energy gun of some kind since ammo costs alot this time around. Fit your mech with a weapon to fit any situation like a machine gun, a rocket launcher, and a missle launcher. For extentions, if you got a heavy mech, use the part that lets you turn faster. If not then use something else the missle interceptors if you can afford it. I usually go with beam swords and always sell your old generator for something better. Also if you can, use both the 1000 ammo machine gun and the howitzer (left arm weapon), its a really cool mix. I defeated everyone in the arena with just these two weapons.

As for getting the Kawasara, I don't have it yet nor did an attempt. I keep hearing that best way to get is to memorize where the cannons are at and destory them as fast as you can. (You can only get it if you beat the mission within a certain time limit - I forget what)

Oh and if you have troble in the arena with any mech that just stays in the air... fight in a tight area like the parking lot. They're sitting ducks when they can't fly over you;)

I didn't know about the firing modes for those gun arms. I think anyone who has them will lose automatically. They just plain suck.

And you're a little wrong about the 4 player thing. You can have 4 players with just 2 ps2's not 4.

[zidane11]

There is also armored core three for the regular playstation. Although different in some ways the Gundam games Journey to Jaburo, and Battle Assault are pretty good mech games. Maybe not as good as armored core but they are still good, especially if your a Gundam fan. Hope that helps.

[SuruBlu]

thanks for the info zero, and about the guns in that level, if you take them out in a short time then you get a bonus mission, which is where i get stuck because i cant last 5 mins against a neverending assault. Its really hard to fight off bombers and mts at the same time, my main problem is incoming missles and the interceptors just don't work well. Journey to Jaburo was too short for my tastes, but i do like battle assault 1 and 2 although that is kinda off topic ;). There is no armored core 3 for the regular PSone you must be thinking about project phantasma, and masters of the arena, which are not really sequels just expansions.

[Flash]

*loves AC2*

Everyone in this thread who has said AC2 is the best mech game ever is [i]right[/i].

When I first played the demo for AC on the PSX, I longed for the real thing. I got it, and when I did, I thought there could be no improvements on such a brilliant game.

And then there was AC2. If God played a Mech game, it would be that one.