Impact Player Posted September 15, 2002 Share Posted September 15, 2002 I was thinking about Goku, Gohan, Goten, and Vegeta. One thing that was bothering was what ever happen to there tails? I know that Goku's was removed but Gohan's was pulled off by Piccolo and Vegeta's was cut by Yarirobi(sp?) and Goten's was..was..well I've never seen Goten's tail. So which comes to my question, What ever happen to there tails? Tony R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Matt Posted September 15, 2002 Share Posted September 15, 2002 [color=red][b]This question has been raised many times before and the general concensous(sp?) is that he was born without a tail. So was Chibi Trunks, so don't go asking that question next.[/b][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 But that's what I don't get...if Gohan and Goten both have the same amount of Saiyan blood, how come Gohan has a tail and Goten doesn't? Maybe Goten and Trunks got their tails cut off when they were born...eh, I don't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Saiyan_monkey [/i] [B]But that's what I don't get...if Gohan and Goten both have the same amount of Saiyan blood, how come Gohan has a tail and Goten doesn't? Maybe Goten and Trunks got their tails cut off when they were born...eh, I don't know [/B][/QUOTE] Kinda like genetics... Like for example... You are an offspring of your mother and father. You would have the same amount of flesh and blood from both your mother and father as would your brother or sister. Does that mean you'll both have blue eyes? Blond hair? Look anything like each other? Of course not. Just because Goten has Saiya-jin blood in him, doesn't mean he's going to have a tail. He's still half human. Humans don't have tails, meaning there's a 50/50 chance he is going to be born with or without a tail. Same reason Goten doesn't have the same hair as Gohan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 You know TN, I nevet thought of it like that before... but it makes perfect sense. I just thought it was another glitch in the series, being as the oozaru level is basically obselete in power when compared to SSJ levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCBaggee Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 [color=red]This is straight from my website, and I hope it's right... "ABOUT SAIYAN TAILS Throughout series This one has been a big subject lately at [url]www.otakuboards.com[/url] so I decided that makes it a little worthy. Here's info about the tails... GOKU'S TAIL--Originally, Kame pulled his tail out towards the end of DRAGON BALL. However, one of the Kai's returned it while Goku was in Other World so he could acheive SS L4. VEGETA'S TAIL--Was cut off by Yajirobi at the end of the Saiyan Saga. However, even though it was not pulled out by the roots, it never grew back naturally. He had Bulma help him using an invention to grow it back. GOHAN'S TAIL--Was never actually permanently removed...I think. It was cut off twice, however, during the Saiyan Saga (Gohan transformed twice while training with Piccolo) and once during the movie Tree of Might. GOTEN AND TRUNK'S LACK OF A TAIL--This one has been a HUGE topic of debate. While Gohan was a Human-Saiyan hybrid, he did have a tail. However, even though Trunks and Goten are of the same geneology, they never have tails in the series! A little speculation... 1) They never had tails. They just inherited a different gene than Gohan did. 2) They have tails, but they were removed. This brings up one other point, though. If that is true, who removed Goten's? Vegeta, knowing the danger Trunks would pose to his family, would probably have removed it at birth. However the only person still alive to know about tails was Gohan, but he never remembers what happens when he transforms! Here are a few theories on Gotens. a) Goten was never born with a tail to begin with. It is possible for one to have a tail and one not have a tail. b) Piccolo, Vegeta, Krillin, etc. came by and noticed the tail and removed it. c) Gohan remembered having his cut off and couldn't remember why, but decided to have it removed just to be safe. d) It was removed during one of the trips to Bulma's house (Goten mentions these trips in the episode The Newest Super Saiyan)" Okay, okay, lots of speculation, I know... There's more at my site, but you can go there if you want it...this post is already long enough and probably has too many errors to count... --J.C.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bra Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 Well I think that Goten and Gohan have different traits. It's genetics, I'm starting to sound like I'm repeating someone... Sorry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 [color=blue][size=1]Thank you, TN, now I'm enlightened:). Seriously though, that is the most logical reason...so I'll believe it. It's not just Goten and Trunks who don't have tails though...Bra and Pan don't either. But then Pan is three-quarters human, so she was probably not born with a tail...and Bra seems to be more like her mum...so she probably didn't have a tail either. Ok. I'm not confused anymore[/size][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkM Posted October 13, 2002 Share Posted October 13, 2002 Tn, this is one of those times when u siese to amaze me! well that answers that question for the 20,000th time (LOL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellatrix13 Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Going on the assumption that it has to do with genetics leads to an interesting conclusion... If it was because of genetics, the gene for a tail would have to be dominant; Gohan would have one gene for a tail (from Goku) and one not (from Chichi). Since he does have a tail, the tail gene is dominant and the other recessive. Therefore anyone born with one or two tail genes would have a tail. So Goten would have to have two non-tail genes, one recieved from each parent. This would mean Goku had passed one recessive gene on to him and one dominant gene to Gohan. This, however, means that full blooded Saiya-jins can carry the recessive non-tail gene; therefore, [B]some Saiya-jins would naturally be born tailless[/B], even if both parents had tails. Did that make any sense? Sorry, I'm taking AP Biology ^_^' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinata Posted October 22, 2002 Share Posted October 22, 2002 Goku and Gohan removal are correct....and it was Yajirobi (sp?) Goten and Trunks I think didn't have tails..They showed Trunks as a baby but there were no tails.... I guess Bulma's and Chi-Chi's DNA didn't allow for that to pop up!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transtic Nerve Posted October 23, 2002 Share Posted October 23, 2002 No where does it state that the tail is a dominant or recessive gene. And even so, just because their first child had a tail doesn't mean it's a dominant gene. My neice was born with blue eyes. Blue eyes is a recessive gene. Her father, my brother has brown eyes (dominant) and her mother has brown eyes. My neice got the recessive gene my brother carried from my mother. The tail could be a recessive gene. It could not be. Either way, I think the reason why Goten and Trunks don't have tails is because of genes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellatrix13 Posted October 23, 2002 Share Posted October 23, 2002 It has to be dominant. If it was recessive, two genes would be necessary for the trait to appear, right? Like your neice, who has one blue eye gene from her father and one from her mother. That means, if the trait is recessive, that Gohan has two tail genes, one from his father and one from his [U]mother[/U] . But how can he get a tail gene from Chichi?! Unless I missed something and she's part Saiya-jin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GundamGohan Posted October 23, 2002 Share Posted October 23, 2002 well... techically, you're both right... while "having a tail" is probably dominant... it takes more than just 2 gene codes for just one trait... what i mean is... there could be a variety of traits that lead to having a tail not just Dominant and Recessive because you could have short/long, thick/thin... etc. but now that i think of it... it's probably just that the animator didnt feel like drawing in a tail when he came up with the characters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellatrix13 Posted October 23, 2002 Share Posted October 23, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by GundamGohan [/i] [B]it's probably just that the animator didnt feel like drawing in a tail when he came up with the characters... [/B][/QUOTE] You are so right! lol! :) The voice of reason has spoken! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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