vegeta rocker Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 I have been kicking myself for something i did and wondered if i say it how it happened if it would sound obvious to you all that i made a mistake. Here it is, well i as assistant director for the play the insanity of mary girard and the director is one of my best friends. Him and one of our actors have a heavy past with each other i wont even go into. Well this guy (actor) didnt go to practice one day until the last ten minutes and my director friend told him he was out of the play. Right then and there, i was shocked because i had no idea. Then while he was defending his decision to the other actors he kept looking at me and saying "say something" i just said i think we shoud give him another chance, this pissed off my friend and he said fine. Now later i found out that his excuse for being late was helping out the school band was a lie and i felt so stupid. My director friend said it was my responsability to get rid of him, which i did this morning. Was i stupid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalon Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 No, you weren't stupid...people make mistakes. People also lie too so I would have been happy to get rid of him. He misleaded you, you have every right to do it. Don't feel stupid, you were just tricked and lied to; something people do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 you did the right thing. It would have only been stupid if you had continued to defend him and not gotten rid of him. I think you should also apoligize to your buddy. Im sure he will be cool, but make sure that you let him know you woulnt have a lack of faith in him too often anymore. Im sure he was picked to be director of the play for a reason. good job on getting rid of the liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zidane11 Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 No your weren't stupid. You said that he lied about not coming so you should have done what you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 No Stupid. Actor Stupid For Lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsung Li Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 [color=darkblue]I think you done the right thing, If I were in your position I would have done the same thing.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 ::looks faintly concerned:: How far into practices were you? And have you got another person to play the part? And I don't think it's necessarily your responsibility to kick someone out of the play. If the director feels it's necessary, so be it. He asked your opinion, you gave it. If he's felt firmly about it, he'd have done it himself. Is missing a practice standard reason for kicking someone out, or is this based in problems outside of drama? Without any further information, I'd say kicking the actor out was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted October 3, 2002 Share Posted October 3, 2002 [font=Eras Medi ITC][color=purple] I think you should've found out the real reason why he was late before you did anything. Second of all you should of told the director that it wasn't your job or your place to kick the actor out. Like Cera said, if he felt firmly about it he would've kicked the actor out or should've. I think you should'nt of kicked out the actor so quickly. That is just how I feel about it.[/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkey Posted October 4, 2002 Share Posted October 4, 2002 Well, you weren't stupid. He lied, and that's a big no-no in the Show Biz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara Posted October 4, 2002 Share Posted October 4, 2002 Show biz is [i]all about[/i] lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delian Posted October 4, 2002 Share Posted October 4, 2002 I'd have to agree with Cera on this one. I don't think it was right of you to get rid of him just because he came late to practice (if it was a one-off thing), regardless of whether he lied to you or not. He probably had other reasons that aren't any of your business but he felt like he had to give some sort of excuse. Late turn-ups and no shows happen all the time in rehearsals. I think the director's decision for kicking him out was based on his past conflicts with the actor. You should have also considered other factors like the ones Cera mentioned. It seems you and the director acted out on personal feelings rather than considering what's best for the team and the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(<AA>) Posted October 4, 2002 Share Posted October 4, 2002 Was this lier a good actor or not? And I agree with the director on this one, If he kicked out the guy twice in front of the staff, it might look like he hated him or something(...not that he didn't), and why did he lie? He could of apologized and maybe the director wouldn't have kicked him out. Oh, and I don't think you're stupid VR, 'cuz how could you have known that he was lying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sui Generis Posted October 4, 2002 Share Posted October 4, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by vegeta rocker [/i] [B]I have been kicking myself for something i did and wondered if i say it how it happened if it would sound obvious to you all that i made a mistake. Here it is, well i as assistant director for the play the insanity of mary girard and the director is one of my best friends. Him and one of our actors have a heavy past with each other i wont even go into. Well this guy (actor) didnt go to practice one day until the last ten minutes and my director friend told him he was out of the play. Right then and there, i was shocked because i had no idea. Then while he was defending his decision to the other actors he kept looking at me and saying "say something" i just said i think we shoud give him another chance, this pissed off my friend and he said fine. Now later i found out that his excuse for being late was helping out the school band was a lie and i felt so stupid. My director friend said it was my responsability to get rid of him, which i did this morning. Was i stupid? [/B][/QUOTE] Stupid? No not at all. Sometimes the jobs we have to do are harder than we anticipate them. Did you make a wrong choice, yes. But everyone does. Personally I believe that just because he is your friend doesn't put him on a special boat or anything like that. But thats my opinion. He is held to the same regards as everyone else. You really can't be blamed for this though, you were faced with a conflict and you gave your opinion. Which shows courage and respect so I'd say it was a good choice at the same time. I've lost you all haven't I? In a way you made a good choice... In a way you made a bad one... All that matters was you said what you believe is right, as long as it doesn't physically [i]hurt[/i] someone then you are fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven's Cloud Posted October 4, 2002 Share Posted October 4, 2002 [color=indigo]I don't know if what you did was right or wrong. So he was late for practice, so he lied...big deal, if (and this is a big if) he only did it once. He made a mistake and tried to cover it up, in my mind the best thing to do would have been to sit down with the actor and tell him that he needs to get his priorities in order. If he is not going to be dedicated you need to know so that you can replace him, however, if this is a one time incident, you guys could let it slide...[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittyLynn Posted October 5, 2002 Share Posted October 5, 2002 Everyone makes mistakes you couldn't of known that he was lying...are you getting someone else to play the part??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 [size=1] Yes, are you getting a new actor for his part? If you can't find someone that is a big-problem. Oh and when does this play even start???[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegeta rocker Posted October 7, 2002 Author Share Posted October 7, 2002 [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by \?~NoodleZ~?/ [/i] [B][size=1] Yes, are you getting a new actor for his part? If you can't find someone that is a big-problem. Oh and when does this play even start???[/size] [/B][/QUOTE] our first showing is about three days before halloween, we show it on that day also. We replaced him, ut he complained to our main director and said we didnt know what we were doing. Now there are rumors going around about me and my director friend that we had a fight and aren't speaking and how we shouldn't be allowed to do this play. First of all we had a disagreement, we are still talking. Two, we are directing this play because we planned it since last year. They are so dumb, but hopefully we can pull off the show, its hard with lines because of the we have so many weird fury lines. Maybe i will link up some pics on it later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 [size=1] Well you still have some time before it starts. I really do hope that it goes over good. Good luck![/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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